Peter Faraday Weller wrote:
On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of
management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more
likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming
nigh-on impossible to keep track of things.
I see a number of issues with Gentoo these days. The lack of a proper
leadership body. Lack of people working together in unison. The tree
needs to be sorted out: we have >16000 packages, and 200-250 developers,
not all of which are ebuild developers) - We're still using CVS, we do
*not* have the manpower to keep all the packages updated properly using
a centralised VCS. If these issues were fixed, I don't know/care how
they do get fixed, but if they were, I might consider coming back.

Hi,

am I the only one to see a contradiction here? You criticise a centralised VCS and anarchism/lack of unison work at the same time. Wouldn't that be even worse with a distributed VCS then? :) I think it would. Also too much use of overlays seems bad to me (yeah the Java team is very guilty here :) and the idea of splitting tree to overlays (which pops up from time to time) is just nonsense IMHO.

It seems that some people think distributed VCS (git) is a silver bullet that will fix everything? Or pushing more and more EAPI's will? I'm quite sure it won't fix the lack of focus. Which I somewhat feel too, but that may be just from the fact that I currently lack time (not motivation though, that seems almost inversely proportional :) ) for Gentoo.

If more people agree on the lack of focus, then we should do something about it, instead of hoping that using better tools fixes it themselves.

Vlastimil

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