Hello, I guess I am tired of fighting with people here. I am too old for this crap.
There are few brutal developers here that make Gentoo a terrible place to be. Well... I can handle few developers, but when devrel enters the picture with arguments such as "volunteers can do crappy job as long as they have fun" enough is enough. I signed-up to work on distribution if I have fun in the process it is great! But always keep in mind the delivery I provide to users. Gentoo has some fundamental issues, the obvious one is lack of leadership. There is *NOBODY* that formally responsible or cares about the delivery Gentoo (AS A WHOLE) provide to its users. The council is just a political body that discuss the void issues. As a result the laud and brutal developers dictate the tune. With no proper mechanism to decide if a decision that was taken aligns with Gentoo goals. The devrel process is ridiculous, as proxy between developers without ability to determine anything does not help anyone. During the short time I was around Gentoo lost some of the best developers that were around, due to similar reasons. If Gentoo community cannot provide its own goals, at least it should embrace standards. Compliant to standards may resolve many conflicts. Roy worked hard to make Gentoo POSIX shell compliant, but this was not accepted, but imagine fully Gentoo work with busybox based system, isn't this an advantage we have? especially on small systems. I appreciate flameeyes work on reducing the system size, I am aware how hard it is. There are new violations of HFS in Gentoo, but nobody cares. Jacub, one of the best developers around that actually cared about the service we provide to our users was suspended while trying to do so, and now he is not active anymore. There are some more examples... The brutal developers remain, the quiet leave. Gentoo is built on a lot of inexperienced students, but the backbone of core developers with real-life experience is very weak. I think that current approach of the developers community will not able to resolve this, as a result Gentoo community will not mature. Gentoo has a great piece of technology (portage), this is unique and with the right leadership may be the tool to make Gentoo more stable and popular, as a result extending the user community and gain more resources. But leadership derives goals, goals derive complaint, complaint derives means of enforcement. None of these currently available in the community. Personal note on leadership: vapier - you are good, so good that many envy you. But this does not give you the right to not being nice. You are on of the few people here that can take at least partially resolve the leadership issue. With a little patience and care. (Just to make it clear: I am not leaving because of vapier). Packages to reassign: mobile: dev-libs/libx86 sys-power/suspend sys-power/hibernate-script antivirus ./sys-fs/dazuko misc: net-misc/openvpn media-sound/mp3unicode I am available at email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Have fun, Alon. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list