On 1/29/08, joshua jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > George Prowse wrote: > > Grant Goodyear wrote: > >> Google has been hinting not-so-subtlely that there's going to be > >> a 2008 Google Summer of Code. I expect that if we want to participate, > >> we're going to have to have our ducks in a row by March, if not > >> earlier. > >> > >> So, does Gentoo want to participate this year? > >> > >> If so, who's going to run it? Who's going to help? What are > >> we going to do differently this year? > >> > >> I'll help if it's something people want to do, but I'd like to see > >> some serious changes this year. I'd like us to only accept proposals > >> that we actually think are quite good. In the past we've been told > >> that we > >> have N slots to fill, so we choose the best N proposals, despite the > >> fact that we often only get a handful of exceptional proposals. I'd > >> also like to see us require weekly public status reports from our > >> students. Quick show of hands: how many people know how what any > >> of our students accomplished last year? I doubt there are many, > >> despite the fact that some good work was done last year. > >> > >> Thoughts? Comments? > >> > >> -g2boojum- > > > > How does the SoC work within Gentoo? Do the developers suggest things > > they want worked on or do the users suggest things, the developers > > okay it and then they get worked on or what? > > > > George > To give a short answer, its a combination of projects suggested by > developer and projects submitted by the students. They get reviewed by > the User Rel/SOC Staff and put into an order of projects to submit to > Google. They then decide which ones they approve of to fund for the > students to work on. >
Anyone can contribute 'ideas'. 'Ideas' are not proposals and proposals are what (in the past) we have had to rank and fund. So if your 'idea' doesn't get a competant proposal written by a student it is not going to get funded, end of story. > Ultimately its up to google to decide on the projects and how many get > funded but we as the project have some say in the order they view them > in. This year I'm hoping to get some decent projects that are attainable > in the summer for students. We've had unfortunately some that have > gotten fairly far but didn't get finished. This will also require > mentors who work with the students who can help them succeed as well. > Its something I'll be bringing up soon as well to discuss with the > developer pool (as my understanding is that at least one mentor must be > part of the project), doesn't eliminate mentors from the community but > it'd be 2 instead of just one.... Google has no input on individual proposals that get funded; they just fund N proposals for a given 'project' (that would be Gentoo for us). I am unsure if we can involve the users in this process because I don't think we have permission to post applications online. Past experience has shown that the overwhelming majority of proposal are terrible and won't get funded. Perhaps I can get permission from some of our former students to present some 'good' proposals on the soc webpage. > > I need to go over more details about it but would like to apply again as > a project. > > -- > gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list