Luca Barbato wrote: > Tiziano Müller wrote: >> Let's go for censorship! Let's vote for gagging those users who don't >> have any idea of development and those ex-devs who think they still have >> anything to say. > > Yawn... > Hmm.
>> >> And to give that comment a technical side: >> - Do you think that any dev will regularly check for messages written by >> users he barely knows and give his ok? Risking being moderated himself >> if somebody else with magic foo thinks that the post was inappropriate? > > given I don't have much time I cannot tell if I'll be really able but I > have _no_ problems in modding up emails. > So, you'd quite enjoy it, you just have no time to do so. Very useful to put this on devs, who seem to be the ones who are always involved in flames (to paraphrase a council member.) >> - Who decides/defines when a post is a bad post? > > the same people that did before? > What the ones you lot just sacked as soon as they actually tried to do their job? Or do you mean the devs who have time and inclination to pick on users? And that has happened.. oh no, wait, you mean the hard-working devs who just don't have time nor experience of moderation? >> - What if one dev thinks a post is inappropriate and rejects it, can >> another dev still let it through? > > why? > Hmm. Now you're showing just why you shouldn't be doing the job- you clearly haven't thought any of the implications through. The question is: what sort of appeal mechanism? Or will it be like irc, where you are loath to interfere with each others' bad decisions? ``After all, they're only lusers, and we is l337 h4x0rs.. hehehe'' >> - Why not just make -core o+r if you think that it gets leaked out >> anyway and leave -dev as it is? > > core is good as is. > So how come `dev' trolls spill over from core to dev? Is your sandbox too small or what? Oh that hasn't happened for a week or two, so all is good. If core is so good, stay there imo, and talk on here when you actually want to consult your external partners. Why can't you just keep your private m-l and allow this list to serve its purpose? "The list is intentionally not developer only. It is a place for the interaction between developers and advanced users on what happens in gentoo. It's not for flames ;-)." Paul de Vrieze [1] >> - When do we start with the moderation of -project? > > -project, project's rules... > > > lu - I don't give a damn > So kindly don't post. You don't care about it, and you haven't even thought any of it thru to even one tenth of the standard of a forum mod. /me votes for moderation of all devs on dev m-l and let em keep core. After all, this is where you show the world just how well you represent your distro. Why shouldn't you uphold standards? steveL - i do give a damn, but i am completely disgusted at the nature of this development. Rather than face the fact that you guys should have never let the situation get so bad, and indeed should have supported your proctors, you want to grab some more power? You need to be thinking about how you have exercised the considerable latitude you already have. If you think for one second that 300 part time devs (of whom 100 are active) can additionally cover the work that your users have been doing, you are simply delusional imo. [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/37195 <-- i suggest you read that link and consider whether users really are the problem. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
