On Saturday, May 5, 2007 03:23:41 PM Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[Paludis configuration: * -> */*]
> Experience and user feedback has shown that in situations like this
> users want an accompanying news item even if the application does
> output deprecation warnings.

Currently, there are two news item in the Paludis overlay. Unless earlier 
ones were removed, those two seem to be a fairly small sample to deduce 
anything from.

Furthermore, GLEP42 states:

"News items must only be for important changes that may cause serious 
upgrade or compatibility problems. Ordinary upgrade messages and 
non-critical news items should remain in einfo notices."

2007-05-04-paludis-0.24 doesn't fit this description. That isn't the real 
problem, though. 

The real problem with issuing news items for trivial changes is that 
people will just start marking such news items read without really 
reading them or even stop synching news items completely.

We won't gain anything implementing GLEP42 if people get the impression 
we're issuing news items for configuration changes that the application 
in question warns about anyway.

For such information as contained in the Paludis 0.24 news item a better 
description of how to get ebuild messages stored/mailed/whatever might 
achieve much more. 

Seeing that something as trivial as mailing ebuild messages to the 
administrator requires using Paludis' hooks (cf. 
http://paludis.pioto.org/hooks.html#ebuild-message-hooks) which is not 
something that can be expected from a normal user (quoting yourself, 
Ciaran: "the users are idiots"), it seems worthy to work on improving 
that.

Then, elog and friends would be fully sufficient for informing users about 
such configuration changes - under the circumstances of this case at 
least.

Best regards, Wulf

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