> On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:46:14 +0530 > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 29-Mar-07, at 2:26 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:19:45 +0530 >> > Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I certainly don't think so. A lot of people *switch* to Gentoo >> >> because of portage. Portage is a core part of our distro, and I >> >> don't see it being replaced for a long time to come. >> > >> > Portage or the tree? Portage is just a way of using the tree, and >> > it's not a very good one... >> >> Both portage and the tree. I don't deny the fact that portage isn't >> the best way of using the tree but it's a lot better than many of >> the package managers (think other distros) out there. > > Better than many other package managers isn't exactly a glowing > commendation. When you consider the disadvantages associated with a > source-based distribution, Gentoo has to do a lot better than that in > order to be worthwhile -- and it only takes one package manager to be > better to make Gentoo not worth using. The goal should be "substantially > better than any other package manager"... >
Quoting our Philosophy Page: 'The goal of Gentoo is to strive to create near-ideal tools. Tools that can accommodate the needs of many different users all with divergent goals. Don't you love it when you find a tool that does exactly what you want to do? Doesn't it feel great? Our mission is to give that sensation to as many people as possible.' I am unaware of any other goals currently present within Gentoo. I would imagine people have goals, projects have goals; but gentoo has none other that the one above. Now you can make the point that portage is not a 'near-ideal tool' and I'd agree for a large number of use cases; but at least you'd be making a point against something thats actually a goal for us instead of some made up goal like 'compete against Ubuntu/Fedora'. That said; people are working on it. You have been hearing that for years I know; most of that effort honestly became pkgcore (more or less). I'm not about to say 'just give portage more time' because that is a stupid statement to make. However I seriously doubt paludis or pkgcore is ready to take over management for our users. For being a badly designed application, portage has a large pair of shoes to fill. -Alec -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
