Hello, I am very glad to here that a complet networkless install via a stage3 on the dvd without the installer would be possible again!
But why you write always something about the distfiles? Are there users who want this? I really don't know. I personally, think in the same way like you! It is unecessary, because we got every week new ebuilds und useflags, if someone would a total customized system he need to load alle sources (stage1 or save it on the hdd before installation). But to include the sources need simply too much space. I also think it it enough to deliver only one stage3 (i686 on the x86-disk, x86-64 on amd64-disk...). Greetz On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 08:47 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 10:38 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: > > Dominique Michel wrote: > > > When an user or a potential user read it and want to do a networkless > > > install, > > > it will just use the Live CD install, and just get in trouble. It is even > > > worse > > > when many Linux magazines will have this CD. And you cannot argue at it > > > is just > > > to use catalyst or to burn a CD from a stage 3, when the doc say "a > > > bootable CD > > > that contains everything you need to get Gentoo Linux up and running." > > > > That statement is still true. I have done 3 networkless installations > > for this release, without a problem. I used the installer. Using it you > > get your box up and running fast and convenient, so what exactly is the > > problem? It's not like you can't get Gentoo running without a network > > connection anymore. > > The problem is that it is a change, and our users resist changes. > > While I appreciate the input from our users, I have no intentions on > "going backwards" to what we had before. I was planning on adding more > content to the LiveDVD images next time around, such as more packages, > and likely the stage3 tarball. Whether I include any distfiles or not > is still up in the air, mostly due to the massive number of bugs that > were caused every single release due to people using the provided > distfiles/packages incorrectly. We simply don't have enough manpower to > test every single possible combination of USE and packages during the > release cycle and our calls for testing usually go mostly unanswered. > We saw a definite increase in the number of developers helping with > testing this past release, but we still need more. > > At any rate, the next release will allow a user to *very* easily to > networkless installs *without* requiring them use the installer itself. > I will have this documented by that time, so there's no need to fret > over it. > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
