On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 15:34 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote:
> > What happened to working together? Should we work together instead of
> > competing against each other?
> 
> Sometimes you want to achieve the same goal by totally different means. 
> Sometimes there are good reasons for a complete new start. It does not 
> even mean you don't communicate anymore. Brian Harring, although working 
> on pkgcore which basically competes portage, communicates a lot with the 
> portage team and vice versa, in a very productive manner. Nevertheless, 
> you won't find anybody on the portage or pkgcore team saying that it 
> would have been better to incorporate the ideas of pkgcore into portage.

Right.

> Sometimes it's simply better to start all over again.

I completely agree here.  I do want to note, though, that Brian is
working on pkgcore outside of Gentoo, much like how Paludis is being
done.  Now, at some point in the future, we might all decide that
pkgcore (or paludis, or something else, entirely) would be a better
official package manager than portage.  So we switch.  I think this
model for "competing projects" works out quite well.  At the same time,
I dislike us having so much "competition" internally, as I think it
helps to foster some of the conflict and ill will that many of us have
towards each other.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation

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