On Thursday 24 August 2006 02:17, Donnie Berkholz wrote: <snip> > When I think about where Gentoo was when we turned into a democracy > years ago, and where Gentoo is now, I don't see much of a difference on > the large scale. We lack any global vision for where Gentoo is going, we > can't agree on who our audience is, and everyone's just working on > pretty much whatever they feel like. Some like it that way others don't I think that is normal when you have elections. If more developers will work for a global vision we will have one.
> The vocal minority often gets its way, despite 99% of the other > developers being happy with any given situation. Yeah, that is a problem. Simple rules and stronger enforcement of those rules would be great. > All in all, the vocal minority has done a splendid job of becoming more > influential, crippling Gentoo's ability to do anything at all about its > members, their flames, their outstanding work at ruining people's fun > and enjoyment of Gentoo, and their waste of everyone else's time. Then vote for someone else. > Being able to work together long term is this project's greatest asset, > one far more important than any set of changes to the code, and turning > arguments about code into issues that affect our long-term ability to > work harmoniously together is just not worth the trade-off by any > conceivable stretch of the imagination. ... I agree. If we can't come up with many global technical objectives this could be a good candidate . > I'm not the only one to suggest that a democracy isn't the most > productive way to run Gentoo. When people wanted to change in how Gentoo > was run, democracy was the only option considered, rather than simply > changing the leaders. There's an ongoing assumption that if problems > exist, it must be somewhere in the structure rather than in the people. Democracy is not just democracy it can be run in many ways. > If I could go back in time a couple of years and prevent this democracy > from ever happening, I would. If I could fix these problems myself, I > would. But it requires buy-in from the entire Gentoo community if we're > to do anything about it. I was only a dev for a few months with drobbins so I don't really have any personal experience from that part of the Gentoo history but I definately would not like to abandon the Foundation and work under some arbitrary chief. Going backwards is not the solution. -- Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen (Jaervosz) Gentoo Linux Security Team -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
