* Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:

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> You ever seen the term "slaveryware"?  You have now.  

We are still talking about the java *language* ?
I aggree that we shouldn't be bound to some certain proprietary 
software. But the java language is not software, it is couple of 
abstract concept for actually writing software. 

There are lot's of java environments out there. So if you code 
someting in java, you don't need to use Sun JDK. You need an 
java environment which conforms to the standard (or at least
the subset you're actually using). 

My personal reference is kaffe. I'm now using this for years,
and it works great for me. AFAIK my java code is standard conform
(but rarely tested on other JREs).


I won't comment anything more on the "slaveryware" issue.
Its simply offtopic.


*If* the kaffe port is currently broken, then let's fix it. 


cu
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