On 8/7/06, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<big_snip> Okay, you simply don't want to talk or even think about this issue.
You have had lots of help from many different Gentoo developers and users on your recent issues. All of these people are volunteers, and have given their time and expertise to you for free. Folks have been *very* patient with you - far more than *you* have been with them.
I won't waste more of my lifetime with it, and I won't let you do more acts of demotiviation. If you wouldn't have descrited my intensions this way and these personal attacks didn't happen,
Again - folks have been *very* patient with you, and have worked hard to explain to you why the suggestions you've made are ones that we don't agree with. Instead of trying to fight all of Gentoo, you would do better to first learn how a Gentoo system (and its packages) are intended to work, and why. Gentoo's radical improvements over binary distros can be both overwhelming and confusing at first.
I would have set up my own overlay for this project and simply fix the problem. But obviously this isn't wanted here.
We welcome contributions to Gentoo. Folks are free to contribute by contacting package maintainers directly, by getting involved on mailing lists, by filing bugs and patches in bugzilla, by contributing to official overlays (on o.g.o and elsewhere), and by contributing to the Sunrise project. We're truly a community distro - one of only two (Debian being the other) - and we live or die by the support we get from the wider community. I think setting up your own overlay is a great idea. I can't think of a better way for you to learn about upgrades, downgrades, SLOTing and dependency atoms than by maintaining a bunch of packages for a year or two.
All my other improvement efforts were simply ignored either or directly discredited, so they're also not wanted.
If you are saying that patches from you have been included into Gentoo without appropriate credit, please let us know. That should not happen. On the other hand, if you are saying that you are feeling ignored ... well, imagine how we feel. We've tried to help you, and explain what's where and why, and we feel that you're either not listening or just not understanding what we're saying.
You just want to remain in your traditional grid of thinking. You won't ever listen, so I'll let you stay there in peace.
Maybe *you* need to learn to listen, in order for others to listen to you?
I'm now warned that I it's not wise to use gentoo for mission critical environments.
Bullshit. Gentoo is a *great* solution for mission critical environments. We have suggested to you that it's not wise for *you* to be using Gentoo. You either don't want to learn how to use Gentoo the way it is meant to be used, or it's too difficult for you. Either way, until that changes, it's difficult to see how you will be happy using Gentoo, or trying to contribute back to it. Best regards, Stu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list