On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:15:38 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:57:32 +0200 "Kevin F. Quinn" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Things that package moves cause: > | 1) Dependencies throughout the tree have to be updated > > And? This isn't a breakage. It is however unnecessary inconvenience for the user, even assuming the support for moves is bug-free. > | 2) Current installations become inconsistent with respect to the > tree > > Uh, current installations become 'inconsistent' whenever anyone > changes *anything* in the tree. To a different degree. In the package move case, the inconsistency occurs even though nothing has really changed, in terms of what the packages actually do. > | 3) Binary packages go out-of-date > > So rebuild them. Binary packages go out of date whenever someone does > a version bump too. So your opinion is that it's fine to cause users to rebuild stuff even when the package itself hasn't changed? > | 4) Increased sync load > > Not really significant in comparison to, say, an arch team keywording > a new KDE or Gnome stable. The difference with KDE or Gnome going stable is that it actually provides something useful; i.e. an updated version of the packages that are presumably better in some way. Package moves do not improve what the package provides, at all, so you incur the pain for no gain. > | 5) Loss of history, unless the move is performed server-side (i.e. > | extra work for infra) > > History's in the ChangeLog. That's a fraction of what's in the CVS history, however. > | The key issue is that categories are semantically inadequate. > > That's no reason to use them improperly. I note you cherry-pick what to respond to. I explained how, without improper use (whatever that is), you just end up with a tug-of-war between herds about which category something should be in. > So again, you've *not* given any reasons to avoid sensible package > moves. Ah; now you're qualifying. What do you consider to be a sensible package move? I would define it as moves where the package is blatantly in the wrong category (e.g. a voip package being found in the app-text category) rather than moves where the package might be a little more appropriate for one category than another - especially where that judgement is subjective. -- Kevin F. Quinn
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