Thanks Sam, I'll take these changes on board and get something out once I'm able to.
Immolo On Mon, 8 Sept 2025, 23:31 Sam James, <[email protected]> wrote: > Immolo <[email protected]> writes: > > > Thanks Dale :) > > > > Title: Desktop Profile to enable PipeWire support > > Author: Ian Jordan <[email protected]> > > Posted: 2025-09-06 > > Revision: 3 > > News-Item-Format: 2.0 > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/alpha/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/alpha/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/alpha/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/alpha/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/amd64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/armv7a_hf/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/armv7a_hf/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/armv7a_sf/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/armv7a_sf/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/split-usr/armv7a_hf/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/split-usr/armv7a_hf/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm64/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm64/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm64/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/arm64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa1.1/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa1.1/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa1.1/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa2.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa2.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/hppa/23.0/hppa2.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/loong/23.0/la64v100/lp64d/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/loong/23.0/la64v100/lp64d/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: > default/linux/loong/23.0/la64v100/split-usr/lp64d/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: > default/linux/loong/23.0/la64v100/split-usr/lp64d/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/time64/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/time64/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/time64/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc/23.0/time64/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64le/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64le/23.0/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64le/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/ppc64le/23.0/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/lp64d/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/lp64d/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/lp64/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/lp64/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/split-usr/lp64d/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: > default/linux/riscv/23.0/rv64/split-usr/lp64d/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/23.0/64ul/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/23.0/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/23.0/split-usr/64ul/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/sparc/23.0/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/split-usr/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/time64/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/time64/desktop/* > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/time64/split-usr/desktop > > Display-If-Profile: > default/linux/x86/23.0/i686/time64/split-usr/desktop/* > > > > Reasons > > ======= > > > > Following on from enabling support for Pipewire in the Plasma profiles, > > this change enables Pipewire for all desktop profiles. > > As the way we output sound has changed dramatically in the years > > since using wireless or often several devices, dynamically connected and > > shared between multiple systems, a modern desktop environment is > expected to > > handle this effortlessly by default. > > > > In Wayland sessions, the video functionality of PipeWire is not only > used for > > screen sharing but also to take screenshots and recordings or simply to > cast > > window content onto task managers' window previews. As this is basically > a free > > and beneficial addition as it provides things like screenshotting and > webcam > > access under Wayland. > > We should rephrase this a bit. We're not doing this only for the benefit > of Wayland and it'll turn some people off. Right now, you're focusing on > the free bit (which is completely accurate), but not explaining that > we're enabling pulseaudio and then happening to choose pipewire as the > provider of that (and we should say that first). > > I think it should look like... > > """ > * Enabling pulseaudio > > [Reasons why] > > * Enabling pipewire (which will provide the pulseaudio daemon by > default) > > [Reasons why] > > * Enabling the other flags > > [Explaining that this follows from the other two points] > [Reasons why] > """ > > > > > Changes > > ======= > > > > New global USE flags enabled: pipewire, pulseaudio, screencast > > New package.use default: media-video/pipewire[sound-server] > > > > We want broad sound server support in packages, and these settings will > make > > PipeWire act as our PulseAudio server where there is no native PipeWire > support. > > > > This summary is OK but we need to say something better earlier too, as > above. > > > Alpha and HPPA > > =============== > > > > Alpha and HPPA currently do not have Pipewire support enabled so only > pulseaudio is enabled. > > Nit: it's PipeWire. > > > These can be requested by users at a later date after confirming they > work. > > > > Users not Wishing to Change > > =========================== > > > > For users not wanting to change from the their current setup, then all > that > > is required is to set USE"-pipewire -pulseaudio -screencast" in their > > Missing '='. > > > make.conf file. > > > > User Action Required > > ==================== > > > > In order to enact all changes: > > > > emerge -1avUD @world > > Check out how to configure PipeWire for your purpose [1][2] > > I guess we should say a bit more here. I understand not wanting to > repeat everything, but as-is, every affected user will *have* to open a > browser, > and that's not ideal. > > > > > In order to keep a PulseAudio or ALSA-only setup: > > > > Invert above new USE flag settings as needed, see also [2]. > > > > [1] > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-07-29-pipewire-sound-server > . > > html > > [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire >
