On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 16:40 +0000, Chris Bainbridge wrote: > On 23/03/06, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:41 +0000, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > > Your nightmare scenario seems unavoidable. Enabling per-overlay bug > > > tracking doesn't stop users posting bugs in bugzilla. It just causes > > > confusion for users, because they're not sure where to go. Normally, > > > it's not a problem - because the overlay contributors are normally the > > > owners of the real package. > > > > No, it does not stop them, but it sure will curb the number of users > > posting their bugs to the wrong place. Remember that only more advanced > > users are the ones using overlays. We won't have Joe Sixpack using an > > overlay. Instead it'll be Bob Developer-to-be. > > If the software a user wants is in an overlay, then the user will be > forced to install the overlay.
It shouldn't be in the overlay, is I think the point many are trying to make. If the software is good enough for any of our users, it should be good enough for the tree. Yes, I know that this isn't a realistic stance, but we can't go around thinking that overlays won't negatively impact the tree, either. > Another thing that some people may not have considered - with many > developers using various permutations of overlays, how can you > guarantee that what is being checked into the main tree will build for > a normal user? In order to test that, a developer would have to > disable all overlays, unemerge everything provided by the overlays, > and then build and test with a plain "non-overlay" gentoo. That's a > lot of work; I doubt most developers are doing it. Developers should be doing testing in a chroot, really. I'll definitely agree with you that many do not. > There is a discussion on the forums at the moment along a similar > topic http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-443469.html - the vote > seems to indicate 58% of users are "not really happy with the way the > portage tree is handled". No. It indicates nothing except that 58% of the 80 people who filled out the poll are "not really happy with the way the portage tree is handled" which by my counts, isn't even a drop in the bucket of our number of users, making the statistic completely worthless. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux
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