On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:32:00 -0800 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark Loeser wrote: > >>> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:06:12 -0800 Donnie Berkholz > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> What's wrong with the original idea of just making any unported > >>> ebuild pull in all of modular X (minus drivers)? Yes, it means > >>> that some people will pick up unnecessary deps until all packages > >>> are ported, but it avoids anyone having to see flashy red errors. > >> The problem with that is that it removes all motivation to ever > >> port the packages. They'll just stay that way forever, where > >> forever means "until I threaten to remove that from the virtual," > >> in which case we'll be in the same scenario we are now. Why? > >> Because people have better things to do than fix stuff that isn't > >> broken. > > > > It'd be nice if you reconsidered this as it will minimize any > > breakage that may occur. Knowing that >800 packages are broken, > > and going to unmask it knowing that just doesn't seem acceptable in > > my eyes. ~arch isn't meant to be "things are known to be broken." > > It's meant to mean, we think all of this is ready to be stable, > > which it certainly won't be in this case. > > No, it won't. It will just postpone the same breakage, as I said > above. You haven't provided any logic or backup to your contrary > statement, just said that somehow a large portion of the other 800 > will magically get ported. > > Let me break this down again: of that 800, about 250 are unmaintained > packages according to metadata.xml or lack thereof. About 200 are > games. About 150 more belong to largely inactive herds. That's > roughly 600 that we already know will not get ported in a timely > fashion, if left to their maintainers, all because of lack of > manpower. What do you propose to deal with them? All I've heard > besides mine is proposals that delay the same breakage, not actually > get anything fixed. How about delaying it as long as n packages are ported per day? Kinda stupid idea, but it ensures that things won't get hold up due to unmaintained packages/inactive devs and might even speed the process up (that's an illusion probably). Marius -- Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better.
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