On Sunday 21 August 2005 05:05 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> The terminfo method is provided by ncurses. It is considerably more
> powerful and has far fewer arbitrary restrictions upon database entry
> lengths. It is also less unmaintained than termcap.

actually it's actively maintained and the upstream author is a cool guy :)

> * Make everything that isn't xterm set its own TERM value. Possibly the
>   same for things pretending to be rxvt, although this is less of an
>   issue since I think everything that pretends to be rxvt is "rxvt plus
>   some patches".

actually, latest ncurses + gnome-terminal break because gnome-terminal sets 
TERM=xterm ... people proposed we revert some changes to ncurses but i denied 
that in favor of making gnome-terminal export TERM=gnome
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91055

i think the gnome team is just ignoring this though ;)

> * Putty? Since I consider sshing from insecure systems irresponsible, I
>   don't know much about this one, other than that it's another dirty
>   liar and that said lying has caused various bugs in the past. Perhaps
>   someone could clarify with details of what it pretends to support and
>   what it really supports?

there is a TERM=putty setting isnt there ?

> Before I go any further with this, does anyone have a really really good
> reason why we should continue to make lots of users suffer because a few
> upstreams don't know what they're doing?

sounds like a good proactive step to me
-mike
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