Hi, Wayne Gao Thanks a lot for the explaination.
Thank you for the explanation. I am currently focused on rewriting big data in Rust, so I'm not interested to be a champion of your project, although it does look good and interesting. I hope you find a champion else from it here. On Sat, Aug 3, 2024, at 22:47, Wayne Gao wrote: > Not get any information from you for a while. May I know if you got this? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Gao <wayne.g...@solidigm.com> > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 5:28 PM > To: Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org>; general@incubator.apache.org; Wayne Gao > <wayne.g...@solidigm.com> > Subject: RE: need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm > CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family > > Sorry Xuan, > > I reply to all, not sure why miss you. Below is my reply. ๐ > > Any question please feels free let me know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Gao <wayne.g...@solidigm.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 12:54 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org; Wayne Gao <wayne.g...@solidigm.com> > Subject: RE: need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm > CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family > > Thank you so much for your quick response. Please see my inline response. > > - The ASF advocates Community Over Code. In the incubator, we help > projects grow and mature their communities, rather than just building a > code repository. So where is your community? Are there any outside > contributors besides Solidigm? > Wayne: currently CSAL is from SPDK community, all SPDK developers help > on it. We have one dedicated developer who works on SPDK community > upstreaming, and he is SPDK big maintainer help review patches. > - The ASF works for public good. If your code is already part of > upstream SPDK, why do you believe donating it to the ASF will improve > things? Are you considering open-sourcing your internal closed-source > projects as well? Does this software work with all SSDs or just > Solidigm ones? > Wayne: I attend this 2024 Asia Apache SW conference, I believe there > are a lot of amazing AI and streaming, big data Open-Source SW there. I > would like to bring our developers be more active to build more > open-source collaboration with other projects to improve from > application to storage. As we can see the trend, storage industry > develops new FDP protocol that is for how to tune application with > storage in all in one stack. We can be that part core component. We > will be considering open-source our internal closed source features to > apache community for better collaboration with other projects. ๐ this > SW works for all NVMe SSDs. NVMe SSD is one standard, driven by > Samsung, Solidigm(previous intel SSD), WD and Koxia. We worked with WD > to demo ZNS CSAL together in the SINA SDC too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2024 10:51 AM > To: Wayne Gao <wayne.g...@solidigm.com.invalid>; > general@incubator.apache.org; Wayne Gao <wayne.g...@solidigm.com> > Subject: Re: need help one champion who is interested to bring Solidigm > CSAL cloud storage acceleration Layer into Apache Open Source SW family > > [You don't often get email from xua...@apache.org. Learn why this is > important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > Caution: External Email > > > Hi, Wayne Gao > > Thanks a lot for starting this thread and also happy to see more > storage related projects in the ASF. > > I have two questions around this idea: > > - The ASF advocates Community Over Code. In the incubator, we help > projects grow and mature their communities, rather than just building a > code repository. So where is your community? Are there any outside > contributors besides Solidigm? > - The ASF works for public good. If your code is already part of > upstream SPDK, why do you believe donating it to the ASF will improve > things? Are you considering open-sourcing your internal closed-source > projects as well? Does this software work with all SSDs or just > Solidigm ones? > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2024, at 10:23, Wayne Gao wrote: >> >> >> Hello dear Apache mentors, >> >> This is Wayne Gao from Solidigm as Principal storage solution architect, >> previous I worked at DellEMC objectscale and Isilon as Sr-Principal storage >> engineer. Recently Solidigm 60T-120T QLC gain big success in US AI infra >> building as backend storage. >> >> I would like to proposal our storage open-source SW to be into Apache. >> CSAL is cloud storage acceleration Layer. We developed this back to 5 years >> ago at Intel. Now we continue working on based on customer demands. >> 1. CSAL offer both log structure cache and set associate cache, it is >> global commercial release inside Alibaba EBS local disk and Cloud EBS disk. >> 2. With CSAL shaping feature, you can easily build scale out S+Q storage >> solution to service the user workloads and maintain density, storage >> industry have VAST that using similar design too. >> 3. you can export CSAL inside DPU, CIPU, NVMeOF to provide storage service, >> it supports K8S CSI too. >> 4. 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