> They could fix the page now, while waiting for the release vote to
complete.

Make sense. At least remove the page/content now to indicate "no Apache
release" now. Then it won't be some "forth and back" updates. It's a timing
issue.

> Note that the page needs more than just an update to version numbers.
> It needs closer.lua links to the source bundle, links to KEYS, sigs
> and hashes, and verification instructions.

Such an install page can be a simplified quick start page. I suppose you
refer to a download page like [1].

[1] https://hadoop.apache.org/releases.html

And yes, Fury doesn't have a download page yet, and they should add one.
But in my experience it's different from a quickstart install page, like
[2] vs [3].

[2] https://opendal.apache.org/docs/quickstart#java-binding
[3] https://opendal.apache.org/download

Best,
tison.


sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 20:00写道:

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 12:46, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I would be very disappointed if the podling published the code
> > > *knowing* that the download page is missing or incorrect.
> >
> > IIUC Fury will update the content and delete all the references to prior
> > releases.
>
> Note that the page needs more than just an update to version numbers.
> It needs closer.lua links to the source bundle, links to KEYS, sigs
> and hashes, and verification instrructions.
>
> > Or instead, Fury can keep these references and state clearly it's prior
> > releases.
> >
> > My comment above is with an assumption that prior releases ref will be
> > removed. But if the PPMC wants to keep it, they should update the
> > description.
>
> They could fix the page now, while waiting for the release vote to
> complete.
>
> > Best,
> > tison.
> >
> >
> > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 19:35写道:
> >
> > > On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 09:42, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There is no indication that 0.4.1 is not an ASF release.
> > > >
> > > > You may found that the group id is not org.apache.fury also.
> > >
> > > Whilst this is true, it is still not obvious that this is not an ASF
> > > release; it is easy to overlook this minor detail.
> > >
> > > Indeed, there is no such indication for the GoLang, Javascript or Rust
> > > binaries.
> > >
> > > > This is an intermediate state that we would update the content as:
> > > >
> > > > <dependency>
> > > >   <groupId>org.apache.fury</groupId>
> > > >   <artifactId>fury-core</artifactId>
> > > >   <version>0.5.0</version>
> > > > </dependency>
> > > >
> > > > And then the content is correct.
> > >
> > > Strictly speaking the content of the Maven reference to 0.4.1 is not
> > > 'incorrect'.
> > > The problem is that the page does not make it clear that the release
> > > is not an ASF release.
> > >
> > > It's OK to refer to prior releases, but the reader must be clearly
> > > informed of their provenance.
> > >
> > > > If we make any workaround or patch to make
> > > > it "look good", it would be updated as soon as 0.5.0 is released. So
> I
> > > > won't treat that as a release blocker.
> > >
> > > I would be very disappointed if the podling published the code
> > > *knowing* that the download page is missing or incorrect.
> > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > tison.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sebb <seb...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月23日周二 15:59写道:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 10:11, PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sebb,
> > > > > > This email thread is a vote for an RC. If this vote passes,
> v0.5.0
> > > > > > will be the first release of Fury since it became a podling.
> > > > > > We will add a download page but at the moment, there is nothing
> to
> > > > > > link to there (except perhaps a KEYS file).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Install page does need to be updated to not mention
> snapshots.
> > > > >
> > > > > If 0.5.0 is to be the first ASF release, then the Install page is
> very
> > > > > misleading.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no indication that 0.4.1 is not an ASF release.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > PJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 at 10:35, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 at 16:26, Shawn Yang <
> shawn.ck.y...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is a call for the vote to release Apache
> Fury(Incubating)
> > > > > v0.5.0-rc3.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Apache Fury community has voted and approved the release
> of
> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > Fury(incubating) v0.5.0-rc3. We now kindly request the IPMC
> > > members
> > > > > > > > review and vote for this release.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Apache Fury(incubating) - A blazingly fast multi-language
> > > > > serialization
> > > > > > > > framework powered by JIT and zero-copy.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fury community vote thread:
> > > > > > > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/g49qt1v99d0ncfvonng39lcs1s56m7v5
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vote result thread:
> > > > > > > >
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/9rtl03g650pojyfb5d67785tffyo4hbs
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The release candidate:
> > > > > > > >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/fury/0.5.0-rc3/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This release has been signed with a PGP available here:
> > > > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/fury/KEYS
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I could not find a proper download page for the release.
> > > > > > > This must have links to the source bundle which must use
> > > closer.lua,
> > > > > > > as well as links to KEYS, sigs and hashes, with instructions on
> > > how to
> > > > > > > validate downloads.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is an install page on the website at
> > > > > > > https://fury.apache.org/docs/start/install, but that does not
> > > link to
> > > > > > > any source bundle.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Furthermore, the install page links to nightly snapshots; this
> is
> > > not
> > > > > > > allowed except on a page intended for Fury developers, who
> should
> > > be
> > > > > > > made aware that nightly code has not been vetted.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Git tag for the release:
> > > > > > > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/releases/tag/v0.5.0-rc3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Git commit for the release:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/commit/fae06330edd049bb960536e978a45b97bca66faf
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maven staging repo:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachefury-1003
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How to Build and Test, please refer to:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-fury/blob/main/docs/guide/DEVELOPMENT.md
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until the
> > > necessary
> > > > > number
> > > > > > > > of votes is reached.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please vote accordingly:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [ ] +1 approve
> > > > > > > > [ ] +0 no opinion
> > > > > > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To learn more about apache fury, please see
> > > https://fury.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Checklist for reference:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [ ] Download links are valid.
> > > > > > > > [ ] Checksums and signatures.
> > > > > > > > [ ] LICENSE/NOTICE files exist
> > > > > > > > [ ] No unexpected binary files
> > > > > > > > [ ] All source files have ASF headers
> > > > > > > > [ ] Can compile from source
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chaokun Yang
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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