Hi, At the bottom of the website, the link to Dromara 知识星球, seems to be a commercial channel. Please consider to remove that. ASF is a vendor neutral org, you should not charge for end users or vendors.
Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking Twitter, wusheng1108 Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org>于2024年3月26日 周二16:21写道： > Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website. > Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/. > > On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote: > > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. > in README.md)? > > > > Best, > > Twice > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM > > To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat > > > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > Tom > > > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > > > time. > > > > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > > > will face after you donate your company core project to a > > > vendor-neutral foundation. > > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > > > Think deeply. > > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > > > startup. > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org> 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > repository. > > > > > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as > Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish > it from Hertzbeat. > > > > > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to > build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will > ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project > to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred > to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe > it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is > the > > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs > go? > > > > > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, > page > > > > > style, etc. > > > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally > fine > > > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts > in > > > > > the future. > > > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? > What > > > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > > > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > > > > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > > > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service > powered > > > > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities > could > > > > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is > done, > > > > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like > > > > > TanCloud do. > > > > > > > > > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the > > > > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the > company' > > > > > legal part? > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chao Gong <gongc...@apache.org>于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on > HertzBeat. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to > indicate that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community > organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the > copyright of projects. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents > according to the requirements of the incubator. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not > included. The foundation is vendor neutral. > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Best wishes, > > > > > >> Tom > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > > > > >> > Hi IPMC members, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - > HertzBeat. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time > monitoring > > > > > >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, > high-performance > > > > > >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom > monitoring > > > > > >> > and status page building capabilities. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Here is the proposal - > > > > > >> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and > help the project > > > > > >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], > Justin Mclean > > > > > >> > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > -- > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Zhang Yonglun > > > > > >> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
