> the PMC is clear that they're responsible to fix them

... and they do fix them. All the fixes above are produced by PMC members.

> this can be an evidence that the PMC understands their responsibility

Somewhat I send the email so it's not totally active. But I believe
that the PMC members are willing to manage the project and I just put
the button.

Best,
tison.

tison <wander4...@gmail.com> 于2024年1月15日周一 21:12写道:
>
> > Datastax has had recent issues regarding trademarks; please follow the 
> > policy, not what other 3rd party companies do.
>
> Of course we should follow the policy primarily. The reference is
> demonstrate what "adding trademark attributions" mean.
>
> > However, they don’t seem to understand that they are responsible for 
> > managing their brand and protecting the ASF trademarks
>
> I get your points now.
>
> The PMC prioritizes the issues you spotted and fixed them firstly.
> They may ask questions and seek helps for trademarks to get a best
> practices to comply with the policy. While you may regard it as
> "outsource", the PMC is clear that they're responsible to fix them but
> cross check the understanding.
>
> I can understand now that it can give an imagine only Xuanwo and I fix
> the issues and beyond what you point out, most of the branding
> improvement is started by my comments [1][2][3][4][5]. I may be too
> proactive here to hide others understanding.
>
> The trademark guide [6] clearly declares where we should use the full
> form of the project name. And for other content the PMC generates,
> there can be other potential issues to fix.
>
> I'll send an email in dev@opendal.a.o for conveying this information
> and let other members to review the content they produced or saw. Hope
> this can be an evidence that the PMC understands their responsibility.
> Of course, this is not a one-time action but should be continued as
> the PMC exists :D
>
> Best,
> tison.
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/vg5mor8m4twy3578rzdqop0y9t961x6y
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25325
> [3] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3984
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3983
> [5] https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3978
> [6] https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/guide
>
> Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> 于2024年1月15日周一 20:45写道:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Also, for trademark attribution, I understand the databend.rs, if it
> > > refers to OpenDAL, it should contain a Footer like Datastax does[2].
> >
> > Datastax has had recent issues regarding trademarks; please follow the 
> > policy, not what other 3rd party companies do.
> >
> > I can see the project, from what you have provided, has fixed a number of 
> > issues pointed out to them. However, they don’t seem to understand that 
> > they are responsible for managing their brand and protecting the ASF 
> > trademarks.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Justin
> >
> >
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