Hi Justin,

> I noticed the domain opendal.databend.rs mentioned there. Who owns that 
> domain?

As an analogy, think of answer.dev and answer.apache.org. You are in
the thread of a similar situation[1].

Best,
tison.

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/sj5nv4bhxl3xrm8yp01fkkrl1rkk3w8b

Xuanwo <xua...@apache.org> 于2023年12月28日周四 14:36写道:

>
> > I noticed the domain opendal.databend.rs mentioned there. Who owns that 
> > domain?
>
> The domain `opendal.databend.rs` is owned by Databend Labs and was used as the
> primary domain before OpenDAL entered the incubation stage. The PMC will 
> coordinate
> with Databend Labs to ensure that all instances are updated to 
> `opendal.apache.org`.
>
> > Other pages I click on have no mention of Apache. e.g.
> > https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal/layers.html Other
> > document pages have similar issues, e.g.
> > https://opendal.apache.org/docs/haskell/OpenDAL.html.
>
> The pages are automatically generated API documentation, where the H1 header
> typically displays the package name.
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, at 14:27, Justin Mclean wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> Thanks for your reply to report potential branding issues. The PMC is
> >> actively responding to these comments.
> >>
> >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3829/files
> >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3830/files
> >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3831/files
> >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3833/files
> >> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/pull/3838/files
> >
> > Thanks for that.
> >
> >> For third-party references, when a PMC member notices one that can be
> >> confusing, there is a reaction:
> >>
> >> * https://github.com/GreptimeTeam/greptimedb/pull/2653/files
> >> * https://github.com/zwpaper/dilu/pull/1/files
> >> * https://github.com/datafuselabs/databend-docs/pull/285/files
> >
> > I noticed the domain opendal.databend.rs mentioned there. Who owns that 
> > domain?
> >
> >> These are instances for "manage its brand and ASF’s trademarks". I
> >> believe that the PMC becomes more experienced on branding topics with
> >> your reports; thank you.
> >
> > The point is I shouldn't have to report these; the (P)PMC should be
> > managing this on their own.
> >
> >>>> About the https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal.html,
> >>>> Please see https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html.
> >>
> >> The first sentence of this page currently is "Apache OpenDAL™ Python 
> >> binding".
> >
> > But the first and more prominent mention of OpenDAL doesn’t include
> > Apache. The page is also missing mention of ASF’s trademarks. I think
> > you need a little more branding and naming is needed to comply with
> > ASF's policy.
> >
> > Other pages I click on have no mention of Apache. e.g.
> > https://opendal.apache.org/docs/python/opendal/layers.html Other
> > document pages have similar issues, e.g.
> > https://opendal.apache.org/docs/haskell/OpenDAL.html. I think a little
> > more work needs to be done here, and again, I shouldn't have to point
> > out the issues. Please look at your documentation and the policy and
> > see what needs to be fixed, or better still, discuss it on your mailing
> > list. It’s far better that you work out what needs to be corrected on
> > your own than for someone outside your project to list what might not
> > be in line with policy.
> >
> >> As for the package name, I argued for the current guidelines in [1]
> >> that you can follow. You may have different opinions and that's OK.
> >> Xuanwo explained more technical details and community feedback in [1].
> >
> > Other projects have different reasons for doing what they do; don’t
> > confuse that with permission to do what they do without a reason.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Justin
>
> --
> Xuanwo
>
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