Dear all,

Could we move the [VOTE] phase after removing the broad contributors (as it
was suggested)?

The last [Discuss] thread was sent 10 days ago with +8(binding).

---
Best Regards,
Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
Associate Professor
Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
Department of Computer Science
University of California, Davis

ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/
ResilientDB: https://resilientdb.com/
Phone: 914-319-7937


On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:03 AM Mohammad Sadoghi <mo.sado...@expolab.org>
wrote:

> Sure, please remove them [I do not have write access to the wiki]. Thank
> you kindly.
>
> ---
> Best Regards,
> Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
> Associate Professor
> Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
> Department of Computer Science
> University of California, Davis
>
> ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/
> ResilientDB: https://resilientdb.com/
> Phone: 914-319-7937
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:02 AM Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I suggest removing them since it is leading to confusion.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:27 PM Mohammad Sadoghi
>> <mo.sado...@expolab.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > As for the question of the “Broader Contributing Members”, they do not
>> > qualify as initial committers as they have provided feedback /
>> contributed
>> > on the broader scope of ResilientDB, so we suggest either removing them
>> or
>> > keeping them in a separate category. I prefer keeping them as a separate
>> > category, but of course, we will follow the ASF recommendation.We are in
>> > the process of improving and upgrading our website, and we will add all
>> the
>> > initial committers to the website. Currently, from our website, we have
>> > also linked to our Apache proposal, which includes the complete list of
>> > initial committers.With regards to the question of forked repo vs.
>> branch,
>> > we are fine with either option. We have made our development public (no
>> > longer private), and we can work on the either public repo (main vs.
>> > forked), whichever mode is preferred by ASF.With regards to PR, moving
>> > forward, we will ensure PR reviews and issue discussions are all done on
>> > the public repo with complete visibility.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
>> > Associate Professor
>> > Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
>> > Department of Computer Science
>> > University of California, Davis
>> >
>> > ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/
>> > ResilientDB: https://resilientdb.com/
>> > Phone: 914-319-7937
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:49 PM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Unlike the Linux kernel, we use the dev or main branch from the
>> > > official upstream repo to accept the PRs from the developer; we do the
>> > > release work on the other branch in the same repo.  We don't use
>> > > another forked repo to keep those changes first.  It will confuse the
>> > > contributor in finding the right developing branch on the project repo
>> > > to work on.
>> > >
>> > > I barely find the repo's PR reviews and issue discussions[1].  Without
>> > > sharing these development contexts, it is hard for the new contributor
>> > > to know the story behind the code change.  We can improve the
>> > > situation during the incubation process. You can take the issue and
>> > > PRs of OpenDaL[2] as a polling example.
>> > >
>> > > BTW, the license header on the source code[3] is not the ASL
>> > > request[4]. We can address this kind of problem during the code
>> > > transfer.
>> > >
>> > > [1]https://github.com/resilientdb/resilientdb
>> > > [2]https://github.com/apache/incubator-opendal/
>> > > [3]
>> > >
>> https://github.com/resilientdb/resilientdb/blob/master/executor/common/transaction_manager.cpp#L1
>> > > [4]https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/blob/hs/LICENSE#L189
>> > >
>> > > Willem Jiang
>> > >
>> > > Twitter: willemjiang
>> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 11:50 AM Mohammad Sadoghi
>> > > <mo.sado...@expolab.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear all,
>> > > >
>> > > > *Question on Initial Committers:*
>> > > > As was mentioned earlier. The criteria that I used was to credit
>> anyone
>> > > who
>> > > > has worked on the ResilientDB project since 2018, acknowledging
>> their
>> > > > contributions. Below is the detailed breakdown of our contributors.
>> So we
>> > > > can reduce the list as needed in accordance with ASF guidelines. As
>> for
>> > > the
>> > > > broader contributors, these are the folks who have supported
>> ResilientDB,
>> > > > e.g., formalization of the research ideas, discussion of how to
>> tackle a
>> > > > particular algorithm or its implementation, testing, and analysis.
>> > > However,
>> > > > these broader members have not contributed to the codebase. So this
>> is
>> > > why
>> > > > they were tagged differently.*ResilientDB Core *[all have signed
>> ICLA]
>> > > > Mohammad Sadoghi <msadoghi at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Junchao Chen <juccchen at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Dakai Kang <dakang at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Suyash Gupta <suyash.gupta at berkeley dot> [Now at UC Berkeley]
>> > > > Sajjad Rahnama <srahnama at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Oracle]
>> > > > Wayne Wang <wjawang at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Hesai Technology]
>> > > > Julieta Duarte <juduarte at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Glenn Chen <gjjchen at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > *Tooling/SDK/Wallet/Applications *[all have signed ICLA]
>> > > > Thamir Qadah <tmqadah at uqu dot edu dot sa> [Umm Al-Qura
>> University]
>> > > > Jinxiao Yu <jnxyu at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Arindaam Roy <aroy at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Square]
>> > > > Divjeet Singh Jas <djas at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Apratim Shukla <aprshukla at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Priyal Soni <pdsoni at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Rohan Sogani <rmsogani at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Oracle]
>> > > > Kaustubh Shete <kshete at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Gopal Nambiar <gnambiar at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Saipranav Kotamreddy <saikotamreddy at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Haskell Lark Macaraig <hbmacaraig at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > >
>> > > > *Deprecated/Obsolete Features *[have been rewritten or removed]
>> > > > Jelle Hellings <jhellings at mcmaster dot ca> [Now at McMaster
>> > > University]
>> > > > Shesha Vishnu Prasad <sdharanaiah at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Path]
>> > > > Dhruv Krishnan <dkrishnan at ucdavis dot edu > [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Shubham Pandey <shupandey at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Cisco]
>> > > > Steve Chen <sstchen at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Priya Holani <pmholani at ucdavis dot edu > [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Haojun (Howard) Zhu <hajzhu at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Robert HE <mjhe at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Shreenath Iyer <shriyer at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Amazon AWS]
>> > > > Domenic Cianfichi <djcianfichi at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Amazon
>> AWS]
>> > > > Erik Linsenmayer <ehlinsenmayer at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at General
>> > > Atomics]
>> > > > Shreyan Mohanty <shmohanty at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at General
>> Atomics]
>> > > > Xinyuan Sun <sxysun at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at CertiK]
>> > > > Patrick Liao <pjliao at ucdavis dot edu> [Now at Juniper Networks]
>> > > > Tim Huang <timhwang at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Jared Givens <jcgivens at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Aditya Bej <akbej at ucdavis dot edu>
>> > > > Seongwoo Choi <shjchoi at ucdavis dot edu >
>> > > >
>> > > > *Question on Private Development:*
>> > > > As per request, we have transitioned away from local/private
>> development.
>> > > > We have forked our public ResilientDB, and we began the process of
>> moving
>> > > > all experimental features into this repo. All these ongoing
>> features are
>> > > > available in this repo but are still under development and not yet
>> ready
>> > > to
>> > > > be released to the main repository.*Our New Development Repo: *
>> > > > https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/*Notable Branches (Active
>> > > Projects)*
>> > > > Speculative Consensus:
>> https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/tree/poe
>> > > > Rotating Leader (lightweight recovery):
>> > > > https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/tree/hs
>> > > > Queue-Oriented Concurrency Control (concurrent execution):
>> > > > https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/tree/QueccBranch
>> > > > Smart Contract Concurrency:
>> > > > https://github.com/msadoghi/resilientdb/tree/smartcontract_cc
>> > > >
>> > > > ---
>> > > > Best Regards,
>> > > > Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
>> > > > Associate Professor
>> > > > Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
>> > > > Department of Computer Science
>> > > > University of California, Davis
>> > > >
>> > > > ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/
>> > > > ResilientDB: https://resilientdb.com/
>> > > > Phone: 914-319-7937
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 6:18 PM Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On Oct 9, 2023, at 7:51 PM, Suyash Gupta <
>> suyash.gu...@berkeley.edu
>> > > .invalid>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hello All
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Let me try to add to Mohammad's response. We defined an initial
>> > > committer
>> > > > > > list of 40+ members as we wanted to give credit to everyone who
>> has
>> > > > > > collaborated with us on projects/papers that were built around
>> > > > > ResilientDB.
>> > > > > > But, the 20 contributors visible on github are the ones who
>> worked
>> > > on the
>> > > > > > actual codebase, which we are trying to bring to ASF. The
>> projects
>> > > that
>> > > > > > other folks worked on are independent from the ResilientDB
>> codebase
>> > > and
>> > > > > > have no correlation with this release.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > So, following ASF guidelines, we are fine with reducing the
>> initial
>> > > > > > committer list to the 20 members. Please let us know your
>> thoughts.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > One way to consider is that initial committers should be those who
>> > > plan to
>> > > > > participate in the Apache ResilientDB community. ASF committers
>> need to
>> > > > > sign an ICLA and that will determine how many committers. Nothing
>> > > prevents
>> > > > > any of those who don’t sign from contributing.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Early in incubation you will need to create a website and you can
>> > > discuss
>> > > > > the history of the project and if they agree those contributors
>> you
>> > > wish to
>> > > > > honor.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Best wishes,
>> > > > > Dave
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 9:47 AM Mohammad Sadoghi <
>> > > mo.sado...@expolab.org
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Everything we have done including research/papers and outcome
>> of
>> > > > > >> development have been open for years. We simply wanted to keep
>> the
>> > > > > public
>> > > > > >> repo cleaner and we only released when we were certain that
>> the new
>> > > > > feature
>> > > > > >> is well tested and stable.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> We will switch our development completely to our public repo
>> > > effective
>> > > > > >> immediately. That is not issue at all.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Best Regards,
>> > > > > >> Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
>> > > > > >> Associate Professor
>> > > > > >> Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
>> > > > > >> Department of Computer Science
>> > > > > >> University of California, Davis
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:08 AM Willem Jiang <
>> willem.ji...@gmail.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >>> I just checked the GitHub issue and PRs of ResilientDB. There
>> is
>> > > > > >>> little discussion on the GitHub issue and review comments on
>> GitHub
>> > > > > >>> PRs.
>> > > > > >>> Please keep Open Communications[1] in mind. We value
>> transparency
>> > > in
>> > > > > >>> the ASF way. Internal development could block the
>> contributions
>> > > > > >>> outside of the organization and cause us some trouble in
>> building
>> > > the
>> > > > > >>> community.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Once the development switches to the public repo, the project
>> > > could be
>> > > > > >>> ready to enter the incubation process.
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> [1]
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/#what-makes-the-apache-way-so-hard-to-define
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Willem Jiang
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> Twitter: willemjiang
>> > > > > >>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 3:33 PM Mohammad Sadoghi <
>> > > > > mo.sado...@expolab.org>
>> > > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Thank you for your question.
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> With regards to the initial committers, over the years we
>> had much
>> > > > > >> larger
>> > > > > >>>> set of contributors who worked on the private repo of
>> ResilientDB
>> > > > > which
>> > > > > >>>> derives the research. Only when features are stable and well
>> > > tested
>> > > > > >> over
>> > > > > >>>> time, they have been advanced and promoted to our public
>> repo. Our
>> > > > > >>> private
>> > > > > >>>> repo has many more experimental features that as part of our
>> > > roadmap
>> > > > > >> will
>> > > > > >>>> be released once they reach the same level of maturity.
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> Best Regards,
>> > > > > >>>> Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD
>> > > > > >>>> Associate Professor
>> > > > > >>>> Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab)
>> > > > > >>>> Department of Computer Science
>> > > > > >>>> University of California, Davis
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 12:23 AM Willem Jiang <
>> > > willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > >>> wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Hi,
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> I have a quick question about the initial committers.
>> > > > > >>>>> There are about 40+ initial committers, but I can only find
>> > > about 20
>> > > > > >>>>> contributors in the GitHub group[1] contributor list.
>> > > > > >>>>> Could you explain the initial committer criteria?
>> > > > > >>>>> There is a section of "Broader Contributing Members" in the
>> > > > > >>>>> proposal[2] after the initial committer, if we treat them as
>> > > initial
>> > > > > >>>>> committers, why do we need to separate them with the initial
>> > > > > >>>>> committer?
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> [1]https://github.com/resilientdb
>> > > > > >>>>> [2]
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ResilientDBProposal
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Willem Jiang
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> Twitter: willemjiang
>> > > > > >>>>> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 1:38 PM 俊平堵 <junping...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> +1.
>> > > > > >>>>>> btw, I assume we will have an official vote thread (start
>> with
>> > > > > >>> [VOTE])
>> > > > > >>>>>> later?
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> JP
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>> Atri Sharma <a...@apache.org> 于2023年10月3日周二 19:24写道:
>> > > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> We want to propose ResilientDB as a new Apache Incubator
>> > > project.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> ResilientDB[1] is a distributed blockchain framework that
>> is
>> > > > > >>> written
>> > > > > >>>>>>> in C++ and integrates with Byzantine Fault-Tolerant (BFT)
>> and
>> > > > > >> Crash
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Fault-Tolerant (CFT) consensus protocols. Code is present
>> at
>> > > [2].
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Key features:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides a scalable client-server architecture. Each
>> developer
>> > > > > >> can
>> > > > > >>> use
>> > > > > >>>>>>> the ResilientDB framework to deploy a replicated service
>> acting
>> > > > > >> as
>> > > > > >>> a
>> > > > > >>>>>>> service. The developer can choose the desired number of
>> > > replicas
>> > > > > >>> and
>> > > > > >>>>>>> the number of clients its system should tolerate.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides native integration with PBFT consensus protocol –
>> > > > > >> arguably
>> > > > > >>>>>>> the most popular BFT consensus protocol. PBFT helps
>> replicas
>> > > > > >> reach
>> > > > > >>> an
>> > > > > >>>>>>> agreement for ordering the client's requests.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides a mechanism to simulate the failure of different
>> > > > > >> replicas
>> > > > > >>>>>>> (including the leader).
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides a correct implementation of the view-change
>> protocol
>> > > > > >> that
>> > > > > >>>>>>> replaces a faulty (or malicious) leader and moves all
>> replicas
>> > > to
>> > > > > >>> the
>> > > > > >>>>>>> new view.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides checkpoint and recovery protocols to facilitate
>> > > garbage
>> > > > > >>>>>>> collection, recovery of failed replicas, and durably
>> logging of
>> > > > > >> the
>> > > > > >>>>>>> blockchain state.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Eases development and testing of newer and optimized BFT
>> and
>> > > CFT
>> > > > > >>>>>>> consensus protocols.
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Provides clients with support for three different
>> application
>> > > > > >>>>> interfaces:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Key-Value Stores - where client transactions include
>> key-value
>> > > > > >>> pairs.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Smart Contracts - where clients issue smart contracts in
>> > > Solidity
>> > > > > >>> for
>> > > > > >>>>>>> processing.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> UTXO - where clients issue unspent transactions similar
>> to ones
>> > > > > >> in
>> > > > > >>>>> Bitcoin.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Facilitates benchmarking system/protocol performance with
>> the
>> > > > > >> help
>> > > > > >>> of
>> > > > > >>>>>>> existing benchmarks, such as YCSB [SoCC’10] and Diablo
>> > > > > >>> [EuroSys’23].
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Stores non-volatile ledger (blockchain) in memory and for
>> > > further
>> > > > > >>>>>>> durability, provides APIs to store both client data and
>> > > > > >> blockchain
>> > > > > >>> in
>> > > > > >>>>>>> LevelDB and RocksDB.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> The serving mentors would be:
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Junping Du <junping_du at apache com org>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Calvin Kirs <kirs at apache com org>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Kevin Ratnasekera <djkevincr at apache com org>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Roman Shaposhnik <rvs at apache com org>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier at apache dot org>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> and I shall be serving as the Champion.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> We have not done a trademark check yet for the name but
>> that
>> > > can
>> > > > > >> be
>> > > > > >>>>>>> pursued independently.
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>
>> > > > > >>>
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/ResilientDBProposal
>> > > > > >>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/resilientdb/resilientdb
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>> Atri
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > > >>>>>>>
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