Thanks Yu Li for putting this up. As the mentor of this project, I
will try my best to help the community.

Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> 于2022年9月23日周五 21:06写道:
>
> Thanks all for the positive feedback!
>
> @Willem
> The proposal is updated and both the project rename plan and github ids of
> core developers have been added. Please check it and let us know if any
> further suggestions. Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
> Yu
>
>
> On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 20:41, Xiaoqiao He <hexiaoq...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > This is an interesting project, +1 on the proposal and good luck to Datark!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > - He Xiaoqiao
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 7:55 PM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Yu,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the explanation. Please add a rename plan to the project
> > > proposal.
> > > I'd be happy to be the mentor of this project.
> > >
> > > BTW,  Could you update the Core Developers information with their
> > > github id,  it could be easy for us to track the contributions.
> > >
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 5:41 PM Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Willem,
> > > >
> > > > Referring to the recent incubation process of streampark [1] and
> > uniffle
> > > > [2], it seems they didn't rename their original project names before
> > > > entering apache incubator, thus we didn't plan to change the original
> > > > github project name but would redirect it to the new project after
> > > entering
> > > > incubation. OTOH, if such a rename is necessary before incubation, we
> > > will
> > > > need some internal approval to process. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Yu
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/ns5n6ozl1mdvdbhmkfol67lt163m74v3
> > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/fyyhkjvhzl4hpzr52hd64csh5lt2wm6h
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 09:07, Willem Jiang <ningji...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just checked the source repo, it is still using the name of
> > > > > RemoteShuffleService.
> > > > > Is there any plan for when we will change the project name?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 11:45 AM Yu Li <car...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I would like to propose Datark [1] as a new apache incubator
> > > project, and
> > > > > > you can find the proposal [2] of Datark for more details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Datark is an intermediate (shuffle and spilled) data service for
> > big
> > > data
> > > > > > compute engines (Apache Spark, Apache Flink, Apache Hive, etc.) to
> > > boost
> > > > > > performance, stability, and flexibility. It aims at enabling
> > > computing
> > > > > > engines to fully embrace the disaggregated architecture. In a lot
> > of
> > > > > cases,
> > > > > > intermediate data depends on large local disks, and is often a
> > major
> > > > > cause
> > > > > > of inefficiency, instability, and inflexibility in the lifecycle
> > of a
> > > > > > distributed job. Datark solves the problems through the following
> > > core
> > > > > > designs:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Push-based shuffle plus partition data aggregation to turn
> > random
> > > IO
> > > > > > access into sequential access.
> > > > > > 2. FileSystem-like API to support writing spilled data.
> > > > > > 3. Hierarchical storage from memory to DFS/object store to enable
> > > fast
> > > > > > cache and massive storage space.
> > > > > > 4. Engine-irrelevant APIs for easy integrating to various engines.
> > > > > > 5. Extended fault tolerance and data replication to increase
> > > reliability
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Datark is currently adopted in the production environment at both
> > > Alibaba
> > > > > > and many other companies, serving petabytes of data per day. Beyond
> > > that,
> > > > > > it has more open source users including Shopee, NetEase, Bilibily,
> > > BOSS,
> > > > > > and Synnex. Most of these users have made contributions to the
> > > project,
> > > > > > forming an active community with dozens of developers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The proposed initial committers are interested in joining ASF to
> > > > > reinforce
> > > > > > extensive collaboration and build a more vibrant community. We
> > > believe
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Datark project will provide tremendous value for the community if
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > > introduced into the Apache incubator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will help this project as the champion and many thanks to our
> > four
> > > > > other
> > > > > > mentors:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Becket Qin (j...@apache.org)
> > > > > > * Duo Zhang (zhang...@apache.org)
> > > > > > * Lidong Dai (lidong...@apache.org)
> > > > > > * Willem Jiang (ningji...@apache.org)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FWIW, although with different solutions, the issues Datark aims to
> > > > > resolve
> > > > > > have some overlap with Apache Uniffle (incubating) [3]. Actually we
> > > > > noticed
> > > > > > this during the discussion phase of Uniffle incubation (when we
> > were
> > > also
> > > > > > preparing for the incubation) and had some open and friendly
> > > discussion
> > > > > to
> > > > > > see whether there could be a joint force [4], and finally decided
> > to
> > > > > > develop independently for the time being [5].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Yu
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://github.com/alibaba/RemoteShuffleService
> > > > > > [2]
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/DatarkProposal
> > > > > > [3] https://uniffle.apache.org/
> > > > > > [4]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/1w74z5f0pb7bhslhzcl5x7rdj9s9objz
> > > > > > [5]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/pg8lzhzc1794x3yloqp169j0mdzqs3yw
> > > > >
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