Hi

My questions have mostly to do with translations, as the source sites are
predominantly in Chinese, not a language I understand.

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 8:38 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shenyu and incubator
>
> Shenyu is going to graduate in next month, I accidentally have a
> chance to review its original org, Dromara, due to some reviews for
> SkyWalking PR.
>
> There are two things concerning me.
> 1. Dromara website[1] still declare Shenyu(even with Apache prefix) on
> its project page. I think this is wrong and confusing end-users. As
> this project has been donated for a long time, why it is still hosted
> there?
>


What exactly does it mean for a project to be listed on the projects page
here?   I didn't see any descriptive text, but nothing on the page looked
like ownership.  I'm not sure if Dromara is a commercial entity or not, but
it's OK for a commercial company to provide support/capabilities for an
Apache project.  See AmazonMQ for Apache ActiveMQ as an example of this.


> 2. Hutool project[2], another project hosted in dromara community, its
> website declares very clearly Shenyu is a project of Dromara
> community.
>

Again, is there a better translation/explanation of this? Is this where
it's asserted that Apache ShenYu is owned by Dromara, instead of Apache?


> 3. Sa-token project[3], Dromara community project. It posts Shenyu's
> logo as well without Apache prefix, and it links the project to
> gitee[4], which is mostly an official mirror of Shenyu.
>
> Could Shenyu's PMC take care of this? make sure that, Dromara is not a
> big open-source community, and several people in Shenyu PMC team
> actually leads this community as far as I know.
> 1. From Dromara community perspective, it would keep declaring things
> like this. Shenyu has been donated to the foundation.
> 2. All links, especially those you could control in the Dromara
> community's project, should go to the Apache website, or Apache's
> GitHub repository very clearly.
>

There's a "Start up" button, but I'm guessing this should translate as
"Getting Started".  Is the intention of these Getting Started guides
explaining how to run these software components within the context of
Dromara? Or just how to run them in general?

Mostly the reason I'm asking is because on the landing page for Dromara, it
mentions the organization's purpose is "An organization dedicated to native
solutions for the microservice cloud" which can be built on Apache products
and if they're providing a guide on how to integrate the Apache product
into their own software stack it may make sense that they're listed as an
integrated component.

Thanks,

John


>
> For members of the PMC team, I hope Shenyu's PMC could take more
> responsibilities to protect the ASF and project branding. This should
> not be hard to find, as you are working inside Dromara community.
> Unless you didn't know this is a branding, this would concern me more,
> as you are going to graduate a TLP.
>
>
> [1] https://dromara.org/projects/
> [2] https://www.hutool.cn/
> [3] https://sa-token.dev33.cn/
> [4] https://gitee.com/Apache-ShenYu/incubator-shenyu
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
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