Thank you Craig for the detailed advice. I have updated the IP clearance form and will start the vote email thread shortly.
Andy, On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 1:40 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > > On Apr 3, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks for that advice, Craig. > > > > I have gone ahead and created > > https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/arrow-rust-ballista.html in > > preparation for the vote and I have a couple more questions now: > > > > 1. The trademark search did find other software products using the name > > Ballista as a registered trademark. What are the implications of this? > Will > > I need to remove use of that name from the PR before proceeding to a > vote? > > I'd say no. The Arrow PMC will need to decide on the name to use going > forward. Remember that the trademark law is intended to avoid confusion of > consumers in the marketplace. > > The PMC will ask if anyone will be confused between e.g. > https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/ballista/index.html and > https://github.com/ballista-compute/ballista . But that only applies if > the PMC decides to keep the name of the sub-project. There is no reason to > change the name of your git project before moving the code to Arrow. Once > it's in the Arrow repository you can make the changes to file/directory > names and copyright notices, etc. > > > > > 2. What do I do about the checklist item "Check that all active > committers > > have a signed CLA on record"? Do I go ahead and put a date against it and > > add additional text stating that not all contributors have submitted a > CLA? > > Yes, here is where an essay is required in response. Include the names of > the folks who have not responded to your request and the size of their > contributions, and the risk in case they don't file an ICLA and later show > up demanding that you remove their contributions. > > Regards, > Craig > > > > Thanks, > > > > Andy. > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 6:32 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> This is just my opinion; others may have different ideas. > >> > >> I'm considering that the project is licensed under the terms of the > Apache > >> License, v2.0 and I'm assuming that the contributors knew that when they > >> made their contributions. > >> > >> I'd continue to try to obtain ICLAs from the other contributors (not > just > >> the 5 with >1 commit but all of them). > >> > >> I'd guess that you won't get every single contributor to file an ICLA > but > >> it's probably ok to continue to a vote. > >> > >> The only risk that I see is one of the contributors later has a change > of > >> mind, decides that they didn't understand that this is an open source > >> project intended to be licensed under the terms of the ALv2.0 and then > >> complains. At that point, the project might decide that they need to > >> rewrite the contributor's code in order to remove the nuisance. > >> > >> So I'd say to go ahead and expect that the contributors who fail to > submit > >> an ICLA are just not interested and will fade into history without any > >> trouble. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Craig > >> > >>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 7:31 AM, Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks, Dave. > >>> > >>> To give an update on the situation, out of the 12 committers with > 1 > >>> commit, we have ICLAs submitted or already on file for 7 of those, > >>> including all the contributors that I would consider key to the > project. > >> I > >>> have been unable to get any response from the other 5 so far. > >>> > >>> Based on this, should I consider moving to a vote now or wait and see > if > >> I > >>> can get more signed ICLAs? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Andy. > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:00 AM Dave Fisher <wave4d...@comcast.net> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi - > >>>> > >>>> Since this is Andy’s project under the Apache License then I’m not > sure > >>>> that other’s ICLA matters. But ... > >>>> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>>> On Mar 25, 2021, at 8:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Andy > >>>>> > >>>>> Typically you would look at the top contributors and aim for ICLAs > from > >>>>> those. Don't forget you have to have a vote here as well when done! > >>>>> > >>>>> I would aim for these individuals: > >>>>> > >>>>> 231 Andy Grove > >>>>> 27 Ximo Guanter > >>>>> 7 QP Hou > >>>>> 6 Boaz Berman > >>>>> 5 Daniël Heres > >>>>> 4 Jack Chan > >>>>> 4 Patrick More > >>>>> 3 Ben Cohen > >>>>> 3 Hendrik Makait > >>>>> 3 Jorge Leitao > >>>>> 2 Hamish Nicholson > >>>>> 2 Tanapol Prucksakorn > >>>> > >>>> I would look more into the nature of these commits. Who would you ask > to > >>>> be a committer? > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> John > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:18 AM Andy Grove <andygrov...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The Apache Arrow PMC has passed a vote to accept the donation of the > >>>>>> Ballista project [1]. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The donation contains code from ~30 contributors and it may not be > >>>> possible > >>>>>> to obtain ICLAs from all of them. If this does turn out to be the > >>>>>> situation, what steps can we take instead? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Andy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/9723 > >>>>>> > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> Craig L Russell > >> c...@apache.org > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > Craig L Russell > c...@apache.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
