They are not debating,

They canceled the vote and fixed the problem. But I couldn't send a link to the 
rules to confirm my reclamation. That's why I'm asking.

Chris
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Von: Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. April 2020 20:28
An: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Do Pooling jars have to contain the DISCLAIMER too?



> On Apr 9, 2020, at 11:25 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
> wrote:
>
> Yeeeeaaaahhh ... buuuuuuut.
>
> We're talking about convenience binaries here ... as we keep on insisting 
> that only source bundles are releases.
> So technically they are doing it correctly, as the source distribution, we 
> are doing the voting on actually does have the DISCLAIMER in it.
>
> Perhaps we should update that document to also mention releases AND any form 
> of convenience binaries.

Sure - please do make a change.

If they are debating this about conveniences are these binaries going through 
proper VOTE procedures?

Regards,
Dave

>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 09.04.20, 20:12 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <w...@apache.org>:
>
>    The DISCLAIMER is an Incubator requirement.
>
>    https://incubator.apache.org/policy/incubation.html#disclaimers
>
>    Regards,
>    Dave
>
>> On Apr 9, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> unfortunately I can't see the requirement to have a DISCLAIMER in there ... 
>> nor could I find it ... I totally agree with you, that it should be that 
>> way, but I couldn't find a written baking of that position so I could vote 
>> -1 and send a pointer to some documentation.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Am 09.04.20, 20:01 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <w...@apache.org>:
>>
>>   Hi Chris,
>>
>>   There should not be a question. If these are official Apache packages from 
>> the project published on Maven Central with org.apache co-ordinates then 
>> they must meet all of release policy and include NOTICE, LICENSE, and, if 
>> incubating, DISCLAIMER. They must also be released on the official dist 
>> server and available at downloads.apache.org even if no one would normally 
>> get packages that way. The same should go for NPM and other distribution 
>> channels.
>>
>>   https://infra.apache.org/release-distribution.html
>>
>>   Clear?
>>
>>   Regards,
>>   Dave
>>
>>> On Apr 8, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Justin,
>>>
>>> I agree that they should ... especially if you don't build from source or 
>>> use the pre-compiled binaries you otherwise wouldn't have any reference to 
>>> the software undergoing incubation at the ASF.
>>>
>>> Was sort of just asking if it's a "should" (still a +1 with a notice to fix 
>>> for next time), a "must" (-1) or a "I don’t care" (+1 and not even a notice)
>>>
>>> I would clearly like to argue for a "must".
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 08.04.20, 14:58 schrieb "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com>:
>>>
>>>  Hi,
>>>
>>>> currently validating a podlings release and I stumbled over the following 
>>>> fact:
>>>>
>>>> *   The src and bin bundles contain a DISCLAIMER
>>>> *   All of their project-jars in any of the bin bundles and the jars in 
>>>> Apache’s Nexus don’t have one
>>>>
>>>> Is this considered OK or should they all have a DISCLAIMER?
>>>
>>>  IMO The jars should contain LICENSE, NOTICE and DISCLAIMER.
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Justin
>>>
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