Justin,

I'm running into a bit of chicken/egg problem in terms of process for donating 
source code.  

To frame the problem:  Part of the code is already released as open-source, 
which is available in the github repository.  Part of the code is yet to be 
released since it was developed internally by Cengage.  Cengage wishes to 
donate the code to Apache, but is unable to do so until the project is accepted 
as an Incubator project.  The Apache community members looking to approve the 
project understandably would like to better understand what they are approving 
and so would like to get access to the code which is to be donated.

I'm sure you've seen similar issues in the past and I'm looking for some 
advice/options to be able to move forward.

--carl



From: Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:35 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] MetaObjects for Apache Incubator

 Hi,

> Currently most development is happening within Cengage.  The core library 
> hasn't changed much, aside from some bug fixes.  Most of the recent 
> innovation has occurred in other libraries built upon the draagon-metaobjects 
> foundations.  That code is part of
 what is proposed to be donated to the apache-metaobjects project.

Thanks for that, I still a little unclear what code base is being donated. I’m 
just asking as that may make the IP transfers process easier or harder, you 
might have to get ICLA from people who have worked on it in the past for 
instance.

> Regarding the mentor list, I saw the Apache committer list included Heath, 
> but misunderstood that being a committer did not imply ASF membership, which 
> was my mistake.  However, Johan Edstrom and James Carman are members of the 
> IPMC, and Jamie mentioned to
 me that he has requested IPMC membership as well.  In addition, James has 
mentored a few projects in the past.  We would welcome another mentor if anyone 
is interested in helping build a community around the project.

I think it would be best for a project if you had an mentor with some more 
experience. It can be difficult if you mentors go missing or if they may not be 
familiar with recent changes in infrastructure or the incubator.

Thanks,
Justin

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