Hi,

> While you've been going through the history and other docs:  Does it actually 
> say somewhere that a true ASF release MUST NOT contain any non-compliance of 
> policy?

Again I’m not sure why you’re talking about TLP policy on the incubator general 
list. But VP legal said as much the other day. "we can NOT allow any relaxation 
of the ASF release policy for a TLP.”

I would probably alter the above to say "known non-compliance without 
approval”.  Exceptions have been made and mistakes will happen and things will 
be missed. IMO as long as the project is willing to correct a previously 
unknown issue before the next release all is generally fine.

Looking at the history the incubator, I didn’t see anything with explicitly 
those exact words, but that doesn’t mean it has not been stated in another 
form, as there a lot of conversions in that history. What I did see is that the 
incubator has been much stricter on policy in the past.

> Sebb just reported that something like 3 TLPs have releases that are not 
> compliant with the NOTICE file policy.

Issues in TLP project NOTICE are reasonably common e.g. I saw this the other 
day [1]. Hadoop (and a couple of other TLPs) have had a long history of not 
being the best examples to copy from. Podlings often do and then are surprised 
when it’s not correct, in the last year I’ve contacted several TLP and asked 
(politely) for some NOTICE issues to be fixed as they are causing podling 
project issues, they usually have been fixed. This has been mentioned in the 
IPMC board report if you want more details.

Give the NOTICE is for informational purposes only, these are probably not 
serious issues.  Even it’s not in line with ASF policy it would probably still 
tick all the legal boxes. (I’ve not looked at the details so that’s an 
assumption on my part.)

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://github.com/apache/hive/blob/master/NOTICE
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