On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 06:55, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> I do not like the words "transfer rights".  It could be interpreted as 
> transfer of copyright.  Copyright of existing code is not transferred to the 
> ASF, AIUI.  How about "Check to make sure that an SGA or CCLA has been 
> received."
>
> I don't like hypotheticals, but I can imagine some individual starting a 
> project on GitHub, has only a few files already under ALv2, and gets a 
> project going at the ASF?  Wouldn't we accept those few files under his ICLA 
> and not require an SGA or CCLA?
>
> I'd suggest dropping the second sentence ("it is necessary to transfer 
> rights...").  AIUI, it is only necessary to grant a perpetual license to the 
> ASF.

Also, the CCLA is not required, and is not an alternative to the SGA
-- as may perhaps be inferred by some from the phrase "(SGA or CCLA)"

https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-faq.html#cclas-not-required

> I like your third sentence.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> On 5/13/19, 5:28 PM, "Craig Russell" <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     The Copyright section of the podling status page says "Check and make 
> sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received. It is 
> only necessary to transfer rights for the package, the core code, and any new 
> code produced by the project.".
>
>     I'd propose a change:
>
>     "Check to make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been 
> received (SGA or CCLA). It is necessary to transfer rights for any existing 
> package and core code. Any new code produced by the project must be covered 
> by ICLA."
>
>     This change is proposed because it might not be obvious to everyone what 
> "the papers that transfer rights" are. And new code produced must be 
> committed by a person who has filed an ICLA.
>
>     Patches welcome.
>
>     Craig L Russell
>     c...@apache.org
>
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