For 2, yes I'm saying exactly that. It's long been an expectation in apache that a -1 be accompanied by a willingness to help fix the problem. There are a few exceptions, such as releases. That's why I have #1 of something is not approved by legal and infra then a -1 reflects that. If the -1 is ticking boxes on a formal process then I don't see that as constructive, unless accompanied by a willingness to help.
Awareness is good. For none blocking items a +1 accompanied by a recorded issue about something that must be approved before graduation is the way to go if one does a check but didn't want to help fix things. As for not enough votes i refer you to Roy's suggestion on board@. Essentially votes don't need to be from IPMC members. Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 10:32:24 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Voting on releases with serious unaddressed issues Hi, > 1) If VP Legal or VP Infra says any of the issues are blockers then the > podling cannot do a release I guess they well need to clarify that then, but AFAIK an an ex VP legal has said this, and VP infra has stated this for the exact issues mentioned in this release. > 2) If IPMC members want to become contributors and help fix the problems with > pull requests, or mentors (meaning real mentors not just folks pointing out > problems, then they should get started. As active members of the community > those individuals will have the right to vote -1 on a release. So are you saying that IPMC members vote are only valid for +1 votes on podlings they are not actively involved in and their -1 votes are invalid? The risk I see there is IPMC votes when needed just become just a rubber stamping exercise. > 3) If the podling is unable to gather three +1s among their active community > then they won't be able to do a release so the conversation is moot Well in this case here that happened (they only had one binding vote) and they asked the IPMC to vote on it. Some podlings, for a number of reasons, are not going to be able to find 3 active IPMC members in their project to vote on every release. (Although I'm surprised in this case given who the mentors are). Thanks, Justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
