On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:42 PM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:12 AM, Mick Semb Wever <m...@apache.org> wrote: > >> The cookies in the moderator mails expire after a few days. > > > > This example was all done today. Numerous attempts have been made. > >> It also means that the person is aware that the private@ list is > >> something they need to follow. > > > As noted else-thread, there is an alternate method to subscribing to the > email lists, by sending email to > private-subscribe-EMAIL.ADDRESS=domain....@skywalking.apache.org > > > Not getting any response at all is not an indication of whether the list > > exist of not, unfortunately. > > > > Anyway… to the thread's discussion: every PPMC received an invitation (per > > Apache template) that requested subscription to both dev and private ML. > > Reading the ASF guidelines here: > > https://apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#communication ; I > > interpret it as they SHOULD be subscribed rather than MUST, and I'm curious > > as to whether how many of the TLPs are actually enforcing this among their > > pmc, if any. It's an interesting discussion… but I'm not entirely convinced > > it's an accurate shortcoming to whether the podling is ready for graduation > > or not. > > I think the question is not "Is SkyWalking ready to graduate" but "Is the > proposed PMC list accurate". > > The PMC members are responsible for governing the TLP and as such need to be > familiar with what is expected of them. Governance activities are conducted > on the PPMC private list. If a PPMC member has not participated in any > governance activities during incubation, it's unclear that they belong on the > PMC. > > Reviewing the last several months of private@skywalking list, most of the > discussion of new committers has had only four or five participants, who are > clearly involved in governance of the project.
>From a peanut gallery: has the podling considered PMC == committers at the graduation point? The two lists look very close to each other. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org