Hi, > Allow the VOTE thread to be only on the dev@ list with 0 or 1 mentor vote > required. As long as the DISCLAIMER exists then the pooling release is good. > > Once completed the podling sends the vote thread to general@ with [REVIEW] > (or [DISCUSS]). This allows the IPMC to review and comment on how close the > release is to being a fully proper Apache Release. The podling can more > easily take smaller increments while continuing development as they did > before Incubation as well as how they will do it once they graduate. > > Graduation requirements don’t change. > > Thoughts?
I think there are some issues with this and not sure how they all can be addressed: - The level of IPMC reviews of releases is likely to go down. Are mentors going to do something at the same level of effort (vote on releases) if it’s optional (review releases)? Similarly with non IPMC members. - With reduced attentions It’s more likely that issues go unnoticed in releases (until graduation time). - Visible progress may be harder for the IPMC to see. - It's possible that more releases will be needed to be done before they are are in line with ASF releases and some podlings will take longer to graduate. - If it does take longer to graduate it likely that some podlings will have less mentor attention towards the end. - Moving "getting it right" just before graduation could cause a couple of issues: a) Things are not fixed until the last minute. It’s just human nature if it doesn’t need to be done right away it's often put off. In that case can the IPMC tell that a podling is ready to graduate? a) Issues are found by the IPMC when a project has asked to graduate and they may be rejected and worse case go through several cycles of trying to graduate. b) Mentors may not be around as much at this time too help. - it's not known if the current DISCLAIMER is enough to cover us (we can ask legal) - It's not know if INFRA will allow distribution of artefacts with serious issues in large numbers on ASF infrastructure (we can ask) If we do do this, rather than change all podlings over to this method, it may be best to do this an experiment (small reversible steps) and see if some podlings would like to try things way and see how it goes. I assume Zipkin may be willing to be one of those. The only issue being the length of the experiment, it will be a few years before we know the outcome. Thanks, Justin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
