Hello all, This VOTE is closed and passes. It was open for 14 days (mostly because of PNS search).
I'll create a separate RESULT thread for the voting details but here's the summary : +1 x 17 +1 (binding) x 10 +1 (non-binding) x 7 Thanks, everyone for helping Apache Unomi reach this great milestone. Regards, Serge... On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:31 AM Serge Huber <shu...@apache.org> wrote: > > Thanks Daniel for replying so quickly, greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Serge... > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 11:25 AM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > +1 - still in brussels, so lagging behind on email :) > > > > On 04/02/2019 11.10, Serge Huber wrote: > > > Hello Daniel, > > > > > > I'd like to close the vote soon but as you voted -1 because of the > > > lack of PNS we need your new vote. > > > > > > For your information, here's the completed and accepted PNS [1]. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Serge Huber. > > > > > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-161 > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 3:12 PM Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 1/22/19 3:09 PM, Mark Thomas wrote: > > >>> On 22/01/2019 00:37, Greg Stein wrote: > > >>>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 3:21 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> -0 (binding) - This podling has never completed a suitable podling > > >>>>> name > > >>>>> search. It seems that people no longer consider that relevant as it > > >>>>> is not > > >>>>> in the Maturity model and I’m not sure why. It could be because that > > >>>>> is > > >>>>> ComDev and not the IPMC. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> The "Maturity Model" (MM) is just a thing developed by ComDev peeps. > > >>>> It has > > >>>> no bearing within the Foundation, other than as a lens for individuals > > >>>> to > > >>>> view projects. That lens is not part of the Incubator, or any other > > >>>> PMC. > > >>>> > > >>>> Personally, I do not view the "podling name search" (PNS) as a gate. > > >>>> That > > >>>> is another imposition, from outside the Incubator, that has crept into > > >>>> the > > >>>> "Must Be Performed(tm)" guidelines for graduation. The Board is the > > >>>> ultimate arbiter of whether a podling can graduate, and a name search > > >>>> is > > >>>> informative for them, rather than gating for us [on the IPMC]. If a > > >>>> podling > > >>>> wants to be called "Apache Acme", and "gee, there are a lot of Acme > > >>>> products out there", then that is on the community. Not something for > > >>>> the > > >>>> Incubator to demand they change; just something for them to deal with. > > >>>> A > > >>>> community problem, rather than one for the Incubator or the Foundation > > >>>> itself. > > >>> > > >>> I disagree on that point - as VP Brand I would, wouldn't I ;) > > >>> > > >>> If there is an issue with the name (that the PNS would have uncovered) > > >>> then the likely solution is that the (now graduated) project will have > > >>> to rename. That has a cost for both the community and the foundation. > > >>> > > >>> While in some cases there are clearly no conflicts, in others it is not > > >>> quite so clear cut. The aim of the PNS is to enable both the podling and > > >>> the foundation (delegated to the Branding Committee) to decide if the > > >>> choice of name is acceptable given the degree of risk associated with > > >>> any potential conflict and the associated costs of a rename should that > > >>> risk materialise. > > >>> > > >>> (There is an assumption here that early renames result in lower costs > > >>> for both the community and the foundation). > > >>> > > >>> As VP Brand I am likely recommend against a podling graduating without a > > >>> PNS on the basis that it represents an unknown level of risk. The board > > >>> may approve the resolution anyway but I suspect it would be tabled > > >>> (delayed) until the following meeting to allow a PNS or something along > > >>> those lines to take place. > > >>> > > >>> As an aside, the policy docs still say a PNS is required to graduate. If > > >>> this view has changed (I'm not sure it has - I don't recall a > > >>> discussion) then those docs need updating. > > >> > > >> I haven't heard of any policy change either, and with that in mind, I am > > >> -1 (binding) on graduation till a PNS has been resolved. As Mark stated, > > >> there are costs involved with name changes, on multiple fronts, and > > >> making sure that we don't clash is quite important. > > >> > > >> With that said, there is plenty of time till the next board meeting, a > > >> PNS _could_ be done in time for that, and I'd remove my -1. :) > > >> > > >>> > > >>> Mark > > >>> > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
