Apache NetBeans is a pretty big and mature project too and it's still 
undergoing incubation.

The advantage for NetBeans is that Sun Microsystems / Oracle owns all the IP 
and just donated it to Apache. It might be a bit more complicated for Graphviz.

That being said, I'm totally +1 on Graphviz, it's such a handy little project 
I've used from time to time.

--emi

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On 3 June 2018 6:29 PM, <sha...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I received this request from Stephen so am forwarding to the general
> 
> incubator mailing list for discussion and any suggestions for options.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Sharan
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> 
> Subject: graphviz as a potential apache project
> 
> Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 17:51:04 -0400
> 
> From: Stephen North scno...@gmail.com
> 
> Reply-To: Stephen North scno...@gmail.com
> 
> To: sha...@apache.org
> 
> Hi, Sharan. I hope you’re the right person for this. (Your org. just sent an 
> invitation
> 
> to an Apache roadshow event under your name.)
> 
> I’m one of the founders of Graphviz, 20+ years ago, and it’s useful 
> infrastructure
> 
> software with new and old applications in bioinformatics, machine learning, 
> software
> 
> engineering and other fields, including plugins for R, python, Haskell, 
> transpiled
> 
> into javascript, who knows what else. I think for example clang, llvm, maybe 
> Go
> 
> use it for debug output. See www.graphviz.org
> 
> We started this in AT&T Labs but AT&T discontinued all support for the work,
> 
> eliminated some of our jobs or encouraged us to leave, has disclaimed the 
> project,
> 
> so we’re on our own. We maintain the software and the website, that we moved 
> to gitlab.
> 
> We are looking for a more stable institutional home for Graphviz. Apache 
> seems like
> 
> a great match. Is this possible? How is a decision like that made? I’m not 
> sure a mature
> 
> project like this fits the incubator model. Are there other ways?
> 
> Sorry if this has gone long (I could say a lot more, too, for example how we 
> could put
> 
> focus effort on new features, or providing better resources to people that 
> need
> 
> network visualization as a service). I’m hoping you’re the right person to 
> start the conversation.
> 
> Thank you for your time, and for your consideration.
> 
> Stephen North



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