Great! I think we can just resume this vote. I updated the ip-clearance form and will wait another 72 hours.
If no -1 is cast within the next 72 hours I will wrap it up and we will accept the contribution into Felix. regards, Karl On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 12:50 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > Yes, an ICLA on file should suffice. > > John > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 5:07 PM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> John, >> >> we have an ICLA for Jessica now. >> >> However, Intel is maintaining the position that it shouldn't be >> required to identify the software granted in detail but rather stating >> the top-level project it is granted to should be sufficient. >> Furthermore, they argue that they have done that many times over the >> years and only used the project level in Schedule B. >> >> Personally (IANAL), I think we should be good as the size of the >> donation isn't that big, Intel claims the copyright and has clearly >> green lighted Jessica to contribute in their name to Felix (and we >> have an ICLA as well) - hence: >> >> Are you willing to withdraw your veto based on the ICLA and the given CCLA? >> >> Otherwise, I guess I'll go and ask legal to see if they can clear this up. >> >> regards, >> >> Karl >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > John, >> > >> > yeah, I see that the schedule B is somewhat lacking. Oh well, ok, so >> > basically we are fine with a CCLA but in this case we don't think the >> > provided one is explicit enough (plus we want an ICLA for Jessica >> > Marz). >> > >> > I'll let them know and get back to this thread when there is either an >> > SGA or a new CCLA with the zip name and hash + ICLA for Jessica. >> > >> > Thank you for looking into this! >> > >> > regards, >> > >> > Karl >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> Karl, >> >> >> >> I just read the CCLA that was filed. I do not believe it is clear >> enough >> >> in the schedule B that it contains to conclude what is meant to be >> >> included. Since you're a chair, you should have access to it at >> >> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents/cclas/intel-corporation-felix.pdf >> >> >> >> Typically, to use a schedule B (as you're noting) I would expect: >> >> >> >> - A zip/tar archive with checksum & md5 listed OR >> >> - A list of files >> >> >> >> As well as: >> >> >> >> - ICLA(s) on file for the individual(s). >> >> >> >> So you could also do another CCLA but listing out one of those two items >> >> above, as well as request an ICLA from Jessica Marz. >> >> >> >> John >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 7:08 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> John, >> >>> >> >>> it might typically be an SGA but it does say: "This grant can either >> >>> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software >> >>> Grant Agreement". Should we change that wording then? >> >>> >> >>> Anyways, I will follow-up with Intel via Jessica and let them know >> >>> that the provided Corporate CLA isn't sufficient and see if they can >> >>> provide a Software Grant Agreement instead. Thanks! >> >>> >> >>> regards, >> >>> >> >>> Karl >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:01 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Karl, >> >>> > >> >>> > If the code is already Apache licensed, then I would check w/ >> secretary@ >> >>> or >> >>> > legal-discuss@ to confirm what documents need to be in place to >> remove >> >>> the >> >>> > Intel copyright claim (typically those would go in to the NOTICE >> file for >> >>> > Apache Felix going forward). This is typically done as an SGA [1]. >> >>> > >> >>> > John >> >>> > >> >>> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant-template.pdf >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 6:57 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Hi John, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> the code has been available as AL with the Intel copyright already >> >>> >> (the license headers in the files are unchanged). It is mainly an >> >>> >> attempt to get it contributed to Apache Felix. I told them we need >> the >> >>> >> following (from the incubator ip-clearance form): >> >>> >> >> >>> >> "A software grant must be provided to the ASF. This grant can either >> >>> >> be done by the ASF Corporate CLA (via Schedule B) or the Software >> >>> >> Grant Agreement. The completed and signed grant must be emailed to >> >>> >> secret...@apache.org" >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Consequently, they send (the received) CCLA which was supposed to >> >>> >> cover for that. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Apologies if I misunderstood the requirement. Could you please help >> me >> >>> >> out here and list what exactly we need from Intel and/or Jessica to >> >>> >> get this done? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> regards, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Karl >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:48 PM, John D. Ament < >> johndam...@apache.org> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> > Karl, >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > CCLA [1] is just a document indicating that the corporate entity >> has >> >>> >> given >> >>> >> > approval for individuals associated to it to contribute to Apache >> >>> under >> >>> >> > ICLAs. It really doesn't provide any legal bearing to relicense >> code >> >>> >> > outside of an ICLA/SGA. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Usually when projects come to us with an IP clearance, its for a >> >>> >> > significant amount of code. In those scenarios, there's an SGA >> >>> >> associated >> >>> >> > with the contribution (from a corporate entity) indicating that >> they >> >>> are >> >>> >> > licensing the ASF to use the code under the Apache license >> >>> (irrespective >> >>> >> of >> >>> >> > the original license). I'm assuming that at Intel some # of >> engineers >> >>> >> > contributed to this code, and that it was under a proprietary >> license >> >>> >> until >> >>> >> > this JIRA ticket was filed. In that case, SGA is almost always >> the >> >>> right >> >>> >> > document to get signed. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > In the situations where we see ICLAs, there isn't usually a SGA >> >>> involved >> >>> >> > since its covered under an ICLA for that committer and needs to be >> >>> >> applied >> >>> >> > as a patch/pull request. The other clear thing this indicates is >> a >> >>> loss >> >>> >> of >> >>> >> > provenance, since (I haven't looked at all of the source files) >> we're >> >>> >> > receiving a flat dump of code to be brought into an existing >> >>> repository. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > So, unfortunately, until that's resolved I'm -1 to accepting it. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > [1]: https://www.apache.org/licenses/cla-corporate.txt >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 5:03 AM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> Hi John, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> as far as I understand the situation, the contribution has been >> >>> >> >> submitted by Jessica Marz on behalf of Intel. The copyright is >> >>> >> >> entirely Intel and the CCLA received is _from_ Intel, covering >> >>> Jessica >> >>> >> >> Marz and the contribution. Does that help? >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> regards, >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Karl >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:54 AM, John D. Ament < >> >>> johndam...@apache.org> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> > Hello, >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > Can you please clarify whether only a CCLA was received, or if >> >>> >> ICLAs/SGA >> >>> >> >> > were received as well? The document indicates a CCLA was >> received >> >>> >> from >> >>> >> >> an >> >>> >> >> > individual, which doesn't sound right. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > John >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:32 AM Karl Pauls < >> karlpa...@gmail.com> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> Hi, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> the Apache Felix project has received the contribution of the >> >>> Bundle >> >>> >> >> >> Archive File Installer Extension. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> - The code is attached to FELIX-5732 [0]. >> >>> >> >> >> - The IP Clearance form has been committed [1]. >> >>> >> >> >> - The acceptance vote has passed on the dev@felix malining >> list >> >>> [2]. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> The clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast >> >>> within >> >>> >> >> >> the next 72 hours. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> regards, >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Karl >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> [0] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5732 >> >>> >> >> >> [1] >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/felix-bar-file-install-extension.html >> >>> >> >> >> [2] >> >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@felix.apache.org/msg44409.html >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> >> Karl Pauls >> >>> >> >> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >>> >> >> Karl Pauls >> >>> >> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> Karl Pauls >> >>> >> karlpa...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Karl Pauls >> >>> karlpa...@gmail.com >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >>> >> >>> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Karl Pauls >> > karlpa...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Karl Pauls >> karlpa...@gmail.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
