On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 8:53 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17 June 2017 at 13:35, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I'd like to start the process to move forward on a new incubator website.
> > Based on discussions in the past on list, I wanted to do the following:
>
> I missed those, so some of my comments may be unnecessary ...
>

Your input is never unnecessary Sebb :-)


>
> > - Roll out a new technology stack + repository
>
> Is this going to be documented somewhere?
>

Yes, I think it'll be useful to include a README (a new norm?) on how it
works + create the equivalent of
https://incubator.apache.org/ngtest/guides/website.html for the new git
repo + jbake, plus docs on how the jenkins job works (over CMS)


>
> > - Leave content in place, while we work later on content enhancements
> >
> > For right now, I'm planning to leave the existing /projects and
> > /ip-clearance in place.  My hope is that we may not need them in the
> future.
>
> /projects files are currently referenced from lots of places.
>

ACK.  I have no intention of dropping /projects anytime soon, at least not
until Whimsy can handle all of these use cases.


>
> This includes retired podling website urls which redirect to the
> relevant projects/podling.html file.
> These are set up as permanent redirects in .htaccess files.
>

I'm wondering if this can just show a 404 page after a while?  For TLPs we
show an attic notice, but podlings may have never gotten through a release.


>
> The list of graduated and retired projects needs to be accessible.
>

While we provide this service today, I'm wondering what the use case is for
it?  Is it just to see that after they've graduated they had everything
done?


>
> > The website staging area can be seen here:
> > https://incubator.apache.org/ngtest/
> > The git repository for the site can be seen here:
> >
> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/jbake-site
> > (with
> > github mirror at https://github.com/apache/incubator/tree/jbake-site )
> >
> > I'd like to get some final feedback on the layout and colors (not the
> > content).
>
> The layout and colours seem fine to me, but I was happy with the
> present layout (which was redone not that long ago?)
>

It has to be ~ 6 years, at least, the incubator website looks the same as
when I first got here.


>
> All existing (major) URLs should continue to work to avoid
> invalidating bookmarks.
>

Sure, I'm assuming you'd be OK with a .htaccess doing redirects?  Just note
at some point we will be moving content around.


>
> > I want to start tracking content enhancements in JIRA to help
> > come up with a backlog of areas of improvement for our incubator guides.
> >
> > John
>
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