Hi folks! Thanks for all the feedback and on the additional mentor; I think the proposal is ready to go to a vote now.
Presuming folks don't have any last minute questions, I'll post it later today. -busbey On 2017-05-23 19:52 (-0500), Kostas Sakellis <kos...@cloudera.com> wrote: > Thank you John for the feedback. > > On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 12:30 PM, Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> wrote: > > > On 2017-05-21 09:46 (-0500), "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 7:45 PM Sean Busbey <bus...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > == Reliance on salaried Developers == > > > > > > > > The existing contributors to the Livy project have been made by > > salaried > > > > engineers from Cloudera, Microsoft and Hortonworks. Since there are > > three > > > > major organisations involved, the risk of reliance on a single group of > > > > salaried developers is mitigated. The Livy user base is diverse, with > > users > > > > from across the globe, including users from academic settings. We aim > > to > > > > further diversify the Livy user and contributor base. > > > > > > > > > > There's a disconnect between this paragraph and the initial committers > > > list. Specifically, no one from Microsoft is represented (as best as I > > can > > > tell). > > > > Ah, this lack of clarity is my fault as an editor. One of the initial > > committers was recently employed by Microsoft but is now in the > > process of changing employers. Another person formally affiliated with > > both the project and Microsoft has decided not to continue > > participating. > > > > I could rephrase this to talk about the contributions made to date as > > being from individuals then in the employ of three major companies. > > Then call out the initial committer list as from two of those and one > > unaffiliated. Would that read clearer? > > > > I modified this section in the proposal to read: "The contributions to the > Livy project to date have been made by salaried engineers from Cloudera, > Microsoft and Hortonworks. One of the individuals on the initial committer > list has since left Microsoft and is currently unaffiliated. The remaining > contributors are from Cloudera and Hortonworks. Since there are at least > two major organizations involved, the risk of reliance on a single group of > salaried developers is mitigated. The Livy user base is diverse, with users > from across the globe, including users from academic settings. We aim to > further diversify the Livy user and contributor base." > > > > > > > > Cloudera currently owns the domain name: http://livy.io/ which will be > > > > transferred to the ASF and redirected to the official page during > > > > incubation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm assuming that the incoming project is aware that we expect the main > > dev > > > landing page to be livy.incubator.apache.org . We will want to track > > this > > > as a project specific item. > > > > > > Yep, once all the docs are moved over to ASF infrastructure we can > > just have the current domain act as a redirect. Should I call this out > > in the proposal? > > > > I modified the proposal to say: "Cloudera currently owns the domain name: > http://livy.io/. Once all the documentation has moved over to ASF > infrastructure, the main landing page will become livy.incubator.apache.org > and the old domain will just act as a redirect." > > > > > > > > == Git Repository == > > > > > > > > git://git.apache.org/livy > > > > > > > > > > Just to confirm - it'll be incubator-livy, not just livy. > > > > right right. I'll correct this when making the other edits. > > > > Added the correction to the proposal > > > > > > > > == Issue Tracking == > > > > > > > > We would like to import our current JIRA project into the ASF JIRA, > > such > > > > that our historical commit message and code comments continue to > > reference > > > > the appropriate bug numbers. > > > > > > > > > > I would recommend reaching out to infra to see if the import is possible > > > before voting on the project. Otherwise you'll need to list out an la > > > > Sure I can reach out. I've seen this done a few times, so I consider > > it low risk. The end of your line appears to have been lost, what's > > the "Otherwise..." ? > > > > > > = Sponsors = > > > > == Champion == > > > > > > > > * Sean Busbey (bus...@apache.org) > > > > > > > > == Nominated Mentors == > > > > > > > > * Bikas Saha (bi...@apache.org) > > > > * Brock Noland (br...@phdata.io) > > > > > > > > > A couple of points: > > > > > > - Sean, while the champion and mentor roles are separate, we do hope that > > > all champions will continue on as a mentor. If this is your intention > > > please add yourself. > > > > After having to withdraw from mentoring a couple of podlings at the > > end of last year I am conservative about what my volunteer time looks > > like right now. I'm certain I can spare the time to help the Livy > > community get introduced to the incubator. I'm not certain beyond > > that, so I am not listed as a formal mentor. > > > > > - All mentors must be on the IPMC. Foundation membership isn't a > > > requirement, however most people use membership to get access to the > > IPMC. > > > If Bikas wants to be a mentor, he'll need to join the IPMC otherwise > > you'll > > > need to find 2 mentors. > > > > I was pretty sure Bikas had already done this step. I'll chase this > > down and find the disconnect. > > > > > - Do the proposed mentors have a relationship to the incoming project, > > e.g. > > > do they care if it succeeds from a corporate interest standpoint? > > > > I'll let the mentors answer for themselves here, as I won't presume to > > know their specific motivations for volunteering. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
