When in doubt (about the MUST vs SHOULD), I follow the MoSCoW method when working on requirements. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoSCoW_method
Otherwise I suggest the following principle: 'When in Doubt Run in Circles, Scream and Shout (WDRCSS). ;-) Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com> OFBiz based solutions & services OFBiz Extensions Marketplace http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 4:47 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 4:00 PM Deron Eriksson <deroneriks...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I noticed that in the Downloadable Graphics section ( > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/press-kit.html#graphics-downloads), > the > > "EPS - RGB" and "EPS - CMYK" links appear to be broken. > > > > > Should be fixed shortly. Glad someone was paying attention (more than > me). I forgot that EPS files were .eps not .svg. > > > > Deron > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Good questions. My thoughts: > > > > > > Daniel Dekany wrote on 4/14/17 5:32 AM: > > > > The page says that the "Official Incubator Logo" "is to be used on > ALL > > > > podling pages during the incubation process". But I guess the intent > > > > was to allow using the "Red-On-White Version of Logo" or > > > > "Black-On-White Version of Logo" or "White-On-Black Version of Logo" > > > > instead as well. > > > > > > Yes, I'd think podlings should be able to choose the variant that best > > > fits their own design. > > > > > > > Agreed. The reason for selection is exactly that - not every logo format > will match every podling website. We want some selection, but try to match > contents as much as possible. > > > > > > Also I'm not sure what the intended usage of the ``Standalone > "Powered > > > > By" Apache Incubator Logo`` is. Since the rectangular official logo > > > > must be displayed (according the press kit), it sounds unlikely that > > > > someone will show the circular variation as well. So maybe the intent > > > > was to allow using that *instead* of the rectangular one? > > > > > > Good question, does Sally or anyone else working on Incubator branding > > > overall have an opinion? Personally I'd vote for using the official > > > square logo in general for podling branding, but if someone wants to > > > talk about the Incubator project as an overall process, the circular > > > logo might make sense. > > > > Which are you considering the "official" one? > Sally can probably speak to it better (CCing her) but I believe the new > "powered by" were supposed to be the sign off allegiance. Is up to the > podling which format they want to use as their allegiance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The press kit doesn't tell where on the page the logo can be shown, > so > > > > I assume even showing it in the page footer is fine. > > > > > > Since a number of current projects feature the incubator disclaimer and > > > logo in the footer, yes, that should still be fine. > > > > > > > Also I'm not sure that by "used on ALL podling pages" you really mean > > > > all of them, like even JavaDoc generated pages. (It's doable > > > > technically, just asking.) > > > > > > No, javadoc pages don't need the branding, although it's nice. > Branding > > > MUST be applied on homepage, any major landing pages (i.e. where you > > > send out links to answer questions from), and on download related > pages. > > > Branding should be on all the main pages of the website; i.e. ones > > > where we are crafting the content (as opposed to purely generated API > or > > > similar docsets like javadoc). > > > > You'll note that I removed the SHOULD. The interpretation is that its an > optional requirement. I don't think that's quite right, and I considered > adding the MUST, but ultimately left it equally ambiguous. How strongly do > you feel on the MUST? I would rather see it than not see it. > > > > > > > > > Well, I guess these will be added to > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html > > > > eventually. Only if we are to implement this at certain podling now, > > > > it would be good to know what the options are. > > > > > > The high level goal is to have your project complying with the Apache > > > TLP project branding policy by the time you graduate (modulo the > > > incubating disclaimer, etc.. It's supposed to be a process, so as long > > > as a podling is making progress, it should be good. > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs > > > > > > > I don't plan to add this to the policy document. Its not policy, its > guides. The policy does link to guides, so it is linked. > > > > > - Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, April 13, 2017, 4:01:29 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > > > > > > > >> All, > > > >> > > > >> In conjunction with the new incubator logo, Sally has prepared > > material > > > to > > > >> help podlings incorporate incubator branding into their logos. I > plan > > > to > > > >> link this page > > > >> http://incubator.staging.apache.org/guides/press-kit.html from > > > >> the main website page to help build logos specific for podlings, in > > > >> addition to our standard banner logo. Podlings would have the > option > > of > > > >> choosing which they prefer. > > > >> > > > >> Please review - I plan to distribute to all podlings tomorrow > evening. > > > >> > > > >> John > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - Shane > > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/resources > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Deron Eriksson > > Spark Technology Center > > http://www.spark.tc/ > > >
