+1 to your comments Tim.

I'll point out - the statement Ted's made isn't exactly what the board has
said.

When I look at the older podlings out there: Wave, ODF, Blur, Streams (as
the short list), none of them seem to me like they shouldn't graduate.  I
almost feel like there's a fear of graduation.  It may be we need to
encourage them to plan to graduate.  You'll also notice in a recent podling
report I pointed to a list of podlings who seem to have their acts together
well enough to graduate.  The IPMC can't force a podling to move along,
they have to take the next steps themselves.

For the record, if anyone's interested in the whimsy link:
https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age

John

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:07 PM Tim Williams <william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > The board is concerned that we have incubating projects that have been
> > around for many years.
> >
> > What is the sense of the incubator about this issue.
>
> Maybe just tell the board to put away the scalpel?  It's not an
> instrument that suits them well...  if there are un-mentored podlings
> doing "bad things" - regardless of tenure - then that would be of
> concern to us I reckon...  but there isn't evidence of that?
>
> Thanks,
> --tim
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