Slack is more stable than hipchat, some of the infra staff have had difficulties with new versions of the desktop client breaking.
On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 at 21:04 Wade Chandler <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > Personally I tried gitter as GitHub was to come on-site at work, and > planned to use it, and the experience was quite horrible. Look at its app > reviews; I tend to agree with the low ones which get into its UX and > usability. Even creating a room or finding existing groups didn't seem to > work well (or at all) on mobile; at least Android. I may need to watch some > tutorials on it, but at least with Slack things just work; I agree the > limits etc can be annoying and working around them with bots or not relying > on logs etc. HipChat is OK from my experience, but Slack is unrivaled, but > certainly can be subjective. > > Wade > > On Nov 4, 2016 3:48 AM, "Stian Soiland-Reyes" <st...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I think for external chats we should rather recommend Gitter, which has > > open rooms (anonymous lurking allowed) and "unlimited" searchable logs > (and > > unlimited number of users) and don't require workarounds with a sign up > > bot. > > > > We did the same for Taverna, we tried an IRC chat, but its synchronous > > nature and lack of modern web support meant it was not too useful as we > > span timezones across the globe. We tried HipChat, but it somehow didn't > > kick off. > > > > Now that we tried Gitter (https://gitter.im/apache/taverna) we've seen a > > large increase in brainstorming and developer activity (and have to keep > > more of a watch to actively push decisions back to list. :-)). I think > its > > email notifications is a good way to lure people back (or scare away!). > > > > The downside is that participation requires login with Twitter or GitHub, > > which some communities might have reasonable objections to. > > > > On 4 Nov 2016 2:33 am, "Wade Chandler" <wadechand...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > For the NetBeans community we had been using IRC, but then setup Slack, > > and > > > it has seen an uptick over IRC which per logging and notifications had > > been > > > harder to support and stay connected. We setup a sign up bot at > > > https://netbeans.signup.team, and we also have a chat room > > hooked/bridged > > > to our IRC channel, so we service both as a collective; good on mobiles > > > too. We have as an item to talk to Slack about OSS and > > limits/restrictions. > > > > > > We don't intend it to replace mailing lists, Jira, nor the wiki, but > look > > > at it as dynamic chats and community building allowing to have hack, > > help, > > > or real time hang time sessions. We didn't know about the Apache > HipChat, > > > but I must confess I much prefer Slack having used both during my day > > job. > > > > > > Wade > > > > > > On Nov 3, 2016 10:50 AM, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 3:23 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Infra recently started leveraging hipchat. A few PMCs have made > use > > of > > > > > it. I was wondering, would it be beneficial to anyone if we setup > an > > > > > incubator room in hipchat? > > > > > > > > How about just promoting the #asf IRC channel on freenode.net? > > > > > > > > https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf > > > > > > > > Better for podling contributors to make connections to the wider ASF > > > > rather than to limit themselves to the current incubator, and the > #asf > > > > channel is already well established. > > > > > > > > We could even embed the Kiwi IRC client in an iframe on the Incubator > > > > website, at say http://incubator.apache.org/chat alongside guidance > > > > documenting how we expect real-time communications to be used. > > > > > > > > <iframe src="https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#asf"; > > > > style="border:0; width:100%; height:450px;"></iframe> > > > > > > > > Marvin Humphrey > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
