On 19.09.2016 1:10, Raphael Bircher wrote: > One Mail also complained about the Initial Committer list. Are all > active committers who did commit in the last 6 month (or so) on the > initial committer list. forgotten people can create bad blood and > disappointment. The committers are the most value part of a project.
Hello Rapael, This really is not a problem. :-) If we were to have included everyone who has committed to NetBeans over the past 6 months, plus all the others who should really be on the initial committers list, we would have had hundreds of initial committers. :-) We decided to keep the initial committers list short and focused on showing that there's an Oracle commitment as well as commitment from individual contributors from a number of different companies [and in several cases multiple individual contributors from the same company]. There are a number of complications in this proposal, indeed, though this is not one of them. Hope that clarifies. Geertjan On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Raphael Bircher <rbircherapa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Geertjan > > I'm registred at NetBeams now, to get a closer look at the project. I > was a bit shocked about the similarities with the formar > OpenOffice.org project. The structure of the Project, the workflow > etc. are so close to the OpenOffice.org project, much closer as I > expected. My biggest fear for the incubation is not the technical > aspect. For infrastructure we will find solutions, and for many > problems exist already blueprints from the OpenOffice Project. My > biggest fear ist the community. As I saw on the NetBeans ML, the > decision to join the ASF was made by Oracle. Well a load of the > community members welcome this step, but there are also fears. This > fears has to be addressed, this is very very important. > > One Mail also complained about the Initial Committer list. Are all > active committers who did commit in the last 6 month (or so) on the > initial committer list. forgotten people can create bad blood and > disappointment. The committers are the most value part of a project. > > This are at the moment my biggest concerns. > > Regards Raphael > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Nightly builds is all that's needed, indeed, no one needs to announce > them, > > they should simply be available. Agreed it's important to distinguish > > between nightly builds and official releases, that's exactly how NetBeans > > works currently. The #1 requirement here is that there should be nightly > > builds and that is supported, from your response here. > > > > Geertjan > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < > > bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > ...the #1 requirement is for Apache NetBeans to be able > >> > to produce daily/release builds and to upload them to netbeans.org or > >> > another download area under Apache.... > >> > >> Daily releases are problematic in Apache projects as the PMC needs to > >> approve releases, and in general those votes last at least 72 hours > >> due to our async collaboration model. > >> > >> AFAIK Apache Cordova for example is making very frequent releases, it > >> might be interesting to find out how they enable that, in due time. > >> > >> Nightly builds should not be announced outside of the project's > >> developers mailing lists, to mark a clear line between those and > >> official releases. > >> > >> All those things can be discussed during incubation of course, just > >> wanted to mention them due to the above #1 requirement. > >> > >> -Bertrand > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
