I get these in spates. As James says they don't seem to cause real trouble so I 
have learned to ignore them. They only happen between Apache mail server and 
Gmail.

D

> On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:45 PM, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same issue on a couple of different lists. It never seems to
> cause any troubles, so I've just ignored them.
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:30 PM John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> James,
>> 
>> I'm not sure if these are the result of a bug or something else.  I get
>> these often from various lists, no reason why, just random failures.  Maybe
>> its worth putting in a ticket for INFRA, but in general you can ignore.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM James Bognar <james.bog...@salesforce.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Martin, but the target is a gmail account.  So if there is some
>> sort
>>> of proxy issue, it must be between Apache and Google.  Maybe it's not
>>> getting through Google spam filters?
>>> 
>>> Quite strange.  As I said, I did receive these messages, so I don't know
>>> what ezmlm is talking about.  I'm mostly wondering if anyone else has
>> seen
>>> these warnings.
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> James
>>>> possibly a proxy server is down between you and Juneau do a
>>>> tracert juneau.incubator.apache.org
>>>> reply back with  source, intervening and target nodes
>>>> 
>>>> ?
>>>> Martin
>>>> ______________________________________________
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: james.bog...@salesforce.com
>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 14:25:52 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: Warning from d...@juneau.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone know what exactly these warning messages are that I
>> occasionally
>>>>> get?  As far as I can tell, I am still receiving the messages that
>>> ezmlm
>>>>> says are bouncing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: <dev-h...@juneau.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 11:38 AM
>>>>> Subject: Warning from d...@juneau.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> To: james.bog...@salesforce.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>>>>> d...@juneau.incubator.apache.org mailing list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
>>>>> at dev-ow...@juneau.incubator.apache.org.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Messages to you from the dev mailing list seem to
>>>>> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
>>>>> message I received.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the probe
>>>> bounces,
>>>>> I will remove your address from the dev mailing list,
>>>>> without further notice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've kept a list of which messages from the dev mailing list have
>>>>> bounced from your address.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
>>>>> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
>>>>> send a short message to:
>>>>>   <dev-get.123_...@juneau.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
>>>>> send a short message to:
>>>>>   <dev-in...@juneau.incubator.apache.org>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here are the message numbers:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   4
>>>>>   6
>>>>>   9
>>>>>   10
>>>>>   12
>>>>>   13
>>>>>   15
>>>>>   17
>>>>>   20
>>>>>   24
>>>>>   25
>>>>>   26
>>>>>   31
>>>>>   34
>>>>>   35
>>>>>   48
>>>>>   50
>>>>>   52
>>>>>   54
>>>>>   56
>>>>>   60
>>>>>   63
>>>>>   65
>>>>>   67
>>>>>   68
>>>>>   73
>>>>>   76
>>>>>   80
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Return-Path: <>
>>>>> Received: (qmail 32561 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jun 2016 14:20:33 -0000
>>>>> Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO
>>>>> spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142)
>>>>>    by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2016
>> 14:20:33
>>>> +0000
>>>>> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>>>>>        by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
>>>>> spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 283BEC0439
>>>>>        for <dev-return...@juneau.apache.org>; Mon, 27 Jun 2016
>>> 14:20:33
>>>>> +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org
>>>>> X-Spam-Flag: NO
>>>>> X-Spam-Score: -2.88
>>>>> X-Spam-Level:
>>>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.88 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31
>>>>>        tests=[DSN_NO_MIMEVERSION=2, MISSING_MID=0.14,
>>>> RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5,
>>>>>        RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01]
>>>> autolearn=disabled
>>>>> Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8])
>>>>>        by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11])
>>>> (amavisd-new,
>>>>> port 10024)
>>>>>        with ESMTP id xL0oKNYLRUmP for <
>>> dev-return...@juneau.apache.org
>>>>> ;
>>>>>        Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3])
>>>>>        by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
>>> mx1-lw-eu.apache.org
>>>> )
>>>>> with SMTP id EA5315FB35
>>>>>        for <dev-return...@juneau.incubator.apache.org>; Mon, 27 Jun
>>>> 2016
>>>>> 14:20:29 +0000 (UTC)
>>>>> Received: (qmail 32522 invoked for bounce); 27 Jun 2016 14:20:29
>> -0000
>>>>> Date: 27 Jun 2016 14:20:29 -0000
>>>>> From: mailer-dae...@apache.org
>>>>> To: dev-return...@juneau.incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: failure notice
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> James Bognar
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> James Bognar
>> 

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