Hi Justin,

Thanks for the feedback.
Licensing is quite confusing and your inputs are appreciated.
Since we are intending to make source only release and not include any jar
or compiled binaries.
Does this qualify only as dependency?
In such case, we wouldn't have anything other than apache text in these
files isnt't it?
We cannot even depend on cat-x licensed libraries?

Regards,
Adi

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Geiß [mailto:markus.ge...@live.de] 
Sent: 14 April 2016 12:20
To: general@incubator.apache.org; d...@fineract.incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [VOTE] [FINERACT] 0.1.0.incubating for release

Hey Justin,

thanks for the feedback. ; o)

Sorry if this call was confusing, but yes it is a call for a vote.

We know about the issue with GPL (Hibernate Entity Manager), and started a
discussion thread a while ago, asking for some guidance. It was not really
clear to us, if we really need to change it, given we release source only
and only use Hibernate at runtime for our integration tests. Your comment is
pretty clear about that now.

In addition we thought it is fine to call for a vote and sort out this issue
with upcoming releases throughout incubation, but maybe we are wrong here.

Best,

Markus

.::YAGNI likes a DRY KISS::.


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> Subject: Re: [VOTE] [FINERACT] 0.1.0.incubating for release
> From: jus...@classsoftware.com
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 15:42:09 +1000
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>
> Hi,
>
> Little confusing if this is a call to vote on the incubator or not but
either way this may help.
>
> If it is an incubator vote I’d vote -1 (binding) due to LICENSE/NOTICE
issues and possible inclusion of Category B/Category X licensed software in
a release.
>
> I checked:
> - Signature and hashes good (but you may want to upload your KEY to 
> http://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net)
> - DISCLAIMER exists
> - LICENSE has issues (see below)
> - NOTICE also has issues (see below)
> - Several java source files are missing headers
> - There an unexpected binary file in the source release [5]
>
> Your mentors should be able to help out with assembling LICENSE and 
> NOTICE. If your’ve not done so you may want to run rat over the source 
> release and it’s picking up a few issues. [5]
>
> For the NOTICE:
> - Year range is wrong replace 2014 with 2016
> - There is no need to list PD, BSD or MIT in NOTICE. Only some 
> licenses require you to add things to NOTICE. [1]
> - Only things that are bundled need to be listed not dependancies. [2]
> - There are EPL and CDDL software mentioned. This are category B and 
> are generally not allowed to be distributed in a source release. [3]
> - There are GPL license software mentioned. There are category X and 
> not allowed distributed or be a dependancy of an Apache release [4]
>
> For the LICENSE:
> - The short form (i.e. a pointer to the full text of the license) is 
> preferring that past the full text of long licenses in LICENSE
> - Again only things that are bundled need to be listed. [2]
> - Several Category B (Mozilla, CDDL, EPL) licensed items are 
> mentioned. [3]
> - The GNU license text is included! [4]
> - License is missing several bundled items included jQuery, normalise, 
> bootstrap, moderniser, html5shiv, jszip, respond, uglify, glyph icons 
> halflings font, polyfill (and probably others)
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#mod-notice
> 2. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#guiding-principle
> 3. http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
> 4. http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
> 5. docs/system-architecture/css/toc-0.1.2.zip
> 6. http://creadur.apache.org/rat/
>
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