On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 11:54 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> Niali, > > I don't disagree with your assessment. In actuality, Johnzon has only > added one committer in its 22 months in the incubator, who later joined > their PPMC and is now slated to be their VP. However, adding committers > isn't the only form of community growth we expect to see when graduating. > JIRA tickets, user input and seeing the developers interact on the various > lists are also taken into account. > > The fact that the podling has some potential new committers in the pipeline > is also great to hear. > > The minimum viable project is three PMC members. Johnzon is a bit bigger > than that. You also have to keep in mind that there are some projects that > are just gigantic. Not every project needs to match that structure. > I did some more research and looked at the proposed PMC participation in the 10 Johnzon release votes (see attachment) and there are four active members. I will withdraw my vote, but I think Johnzon with 4 people and only 2 really active on the code is borderline and it needs to recruit more people to be sustainable long term. Niall > > John > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 5:58 PM Niall Pemberton <niall.pember...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid > > > > wrote: > > > > > Please look at more current data > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-johnzon/graphs/contributors > > > > > > I didn't see your commits today - but otherwise doesn't look alot > > difference. > > > > Also note that there are patches applied from contributors via Jira > patches > > > and NOT via git-pull. Thus they show not up in the graph above. > > > > > > From that category we have Reinhard Sandtner (apacheId rsandtner) which > > is > > > closely looked for as potential committer and Karl Grosse (also on our > > > watch list). Both provided patches and contributed in hacking sessions. > > > > > > > Thats great, but I agree with the June, Sept & Dec 2015 board reports > > about growing the committers/ppmc - and I don't understand why that was > > reported as a graduation requirement and now its not and Johnzon is > ready? > > > > Niall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LieGrue, > > > strub > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday, 3 April 2016, 20:18, Niall Pemberton < > > > niall.pember...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Johnzon reports for June, Sept & Dec 2015 all listed "adding new > > > > committers/pmc members" in the "most important issues to address in > > > > the > > > > move towards graduation" - but in that time there were no changes to > > the > > > > community. So what changed to make the ppmc/mentors now think the > > project > > > > is ready to graduate? > > > > > > > > Johnzon has added Hendrik Saly as a committer/ppmc member (Aug 2014 / > > Apr > > > > 2015), but of the 6 original committers listed on the original > > proposal, > > > > only 3 are on proposed TLP, so the statement in the Maturity model > > saying > > > > "List of commmitters and PPMC members has grown during incubation" is > > > > a bit > > > > misleading. > > > > > > > > From looking at commits, there are only 2 active people[1] and for me > > > thats > > > > a concern for the projects long term viability and so my vote is -1 > to > > > > graduation. > > > > > > > > [1] http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.fleece.commits > > > > > > > > Niall > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Hendrik Dev <hendrikde...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> The Apache Johnzon community has discussed and voted on graduation > to > > > >> a top level project. The vote passed with 8 +1 votes (5 from the > > PPMC) > > > >> and no 0 or -1 votes. > > > >> > > > >> Incubation Status: > > > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/johnzon.html > > > >> Maturity Assessment: > > > >> https://s.apache.org/d88S > > > > > > > > > > > >> Discussions: > > > >> https://s.apache.org/5vxO > > > >> https://s.apache.org/8VkX > > > >> Vote: > > > >> https://s.apache.org/suuK > > > >> (http://markmail.org/message/mawumtfqokgye5xn) > > > >> Result: > > > >> https://s.apache.org/Erd0 > > > >> (http://markmail.org/message/qmqvk56ccqkq2gob) > > > >> > > > >> Please vote on the resolution pasted below to graduate Apache > Johnzon > > > >> from the incubator to top level project. > > > >> > > > >> [ ] +1 Graduate Apache Johnzon from the Incubator. > > > >> [ ] +0 Don't care. > > > >> [ ] -1 Don't graduate Apache Johnzon from the Incubator because ... > > > >> > > > >> This vote will be open for at least 72 hours. > > > >> > > > >> Many thanks to our mentors and everyone else for the support, > > > >> > > > >> Hendrik Saly on behalf of the Apache Johnzon PPMC > > > >> > > > >> Apache Johnzon top-level project resolution: > > > >> ============================================ > > > >> > > > >> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best > > > >> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the > > > >> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management > > > >> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of > > > >> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to > > > >> the public, related to JSR-353 compliant JSON parsing and a > > > >> set of useful modules to help with the usage of JSR-353 > > > >> as well as JSR successors (like JSR-374) or related JSRs > > > >> (like JSR-367). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management > > > >> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Johnzon Project", > > > >> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the > > > >> Foundation; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Johnzon Project be and hereby is > > > >> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software > > > >> related to JSR-353 compliant JSON parsing and a > > > >> set of useful modules to help with the usage of JSR-353 > > > >> as well as JSR successors (like JSR-374) or related JSRs > > > >> (like JSR-367); and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Johnzon" be > > > >> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to > > > >> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair > > > >> of the Apache Johnzon Project, and to have primary responsibility > > > >> for management of the projects within the scope of > > > >> responsibility of the Apache Johnzon Project; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and > > > >> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the > > > >> Apache Johnzon Project: > > > >> > > > >> * Justin Mclean <jmclean AT apache.org> > > > >> * Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau AT apache.org> > > > >> * Jean-Louis Monteiro <jlmonteiro AT apache.org> > > > >> * Mark Struberg <struberg AT apache.org> > > > >> * Hendrik Saly <salyh AT apache.org> > > > >> > > > >> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Hendrik Saly (salyh) > > > >> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Johnzon, to > > > >> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the > > > >> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until > > > >> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, > > > >> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Johnzon PMC be and hereby is > > > >> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to > > > >> encourage open development and increased participation in the > > > >> Apache Johnzon Project; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that the Apache Johnzon Project be and hereby > > > >> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache > > > >> Incubator Johnzon podling; and be it further > > > >> > > > >> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > > > >> Incubator Johnzon podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator > > > >> Project are hereafter discharged. > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Hendrik Saly (salyh, hendrikdev22) > > > >> @hendrikdev22 > > > >> PGP: 0x22D7F6EC > > > >> > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
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