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On 11/05/2015 12:49 PM, larry mccay wrote: > +1 - I am concerned by the trend that I see developing here. > > A set of interview questions for evaluation is one thing but > criteria checkboxes that will encourage behaviors by rote will not > actually develop more healthy communities just communities that can > get the boxes checked. > > While certain metrics like adding PMC members may be indicators of > natural growth they should not be required otherwise they will be > done artificially. Given your comments, I'm curious if you've read the document we're discussing. It's here: https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.ht ml It's a set of interview questions for evaluation. None of them can really be considered checkboxes, since every one of them requires quite a bit of research and thought to fill out, and hardly any of them will have a clear yes or no answer, but are rather a goal that we all continually strive towards. (Sure, some of them are clearly yes or no, but most are not.) > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 7:30 AM, Justin Erenkrantz > <jus...@erenkrantz.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Roman Shaposhnik >> <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: >>> Correct. It is a tool, but not a requirement (at least not >>> yet). And since I repeatedly suggested this tool on this thread >>> let me explain >> why. >> >> And, this is the root of my concern expressed in the other >> general@ thread: I fear that this is going to quickly evolve to >> yet another bureaucratic form that the IPMC is going to quickly >> require all projects to complete. >> >> We should not be trying to force rote learning. Every community >> is different. >> >> Trust the mentors or don't - but, I am very much opposed to more >> overhead. Forcing projects to feel like they have to report >> monthly is against what we should be about. I believe that the >> IPMC should be imposing the barest amount of overhead to what the >> Board requires from the full projects. To that end, having >> mentors explicitly sign-off is fair - but, additional paperwork >> is not. -- justin >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > - -- Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com - @rbowen http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlY9BcIACgkQXP03+sx4yJPiSgCeJCN75hYHUk4ZQFsSGgq/yKsw nIsAnRM7MS6FmrRJfNvZL3f3Hi8TzdIm =QDyV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
