I think there is a difference between what TLPs do and what the recommended approach for Podlings is.
My impression, based on limited podling experience, is that the default tends to be PPMC == committer. Thanks for raising the notion of looking at why committers are *not* moved to the PMC of a TLP after some period of time, though. My question, as a PMC member, would be whether or not we are holding the reins too tight at the expense of both community and sustainability. An useful danger sign, that. - Dennis > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Reddin [mailto:gred...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 06:22 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Concerning Sentry: A disagreement over the Apache Way and > graduation > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > On 11/05/2015 12:02 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > >> Committership is the right to do work on the project. PMC membership > is the > >> right to participate in governance. People left in the nebulous > state > >> between > >> committership and PMC membership for long periods of time more than > likely > >> will give up in frustration for not being trusted enough to govern > their > >> own work. > > > > > > Most of the older projects at the Foundation do not have PMC == > > Committer. Notably, httpd. The notion that committers are > automatically > > PMC is a fairly new innovation. As it happens, it's an innovation that > I > > wholeheartedly support and recommend, but it's a minority of projects > > that have this policy. If you follow board reports, you'll notice that > > PMC additions and Committer additions are seldom coincident. > > In further support of Joe's point, for most of the projects I've been > involved with, the PMC promotion was almost automatic and occurred > within about 6 months of committership. The committer-only period was > just a probationary period to make sure a person was not going to > abuse his/her privileges. An invite to committership comes with an > unspoken assumption that we want you to help govern the project, but > let's start with giving you access. I don't know that I ever saw > anyone stay as committer-only for an extended period of time. > > Greg > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
