Exactly my point. If it's intentional, leave it in, otherwise consider taking it out.
As a (very recent) mentor, I see no indication that the Kylin community has plans to deviate. Background: When Storm was incubating I thought that creating bylaws was required, and we did so, for better or worse. In retrospect, I probably would have stuck with the defaults. -Taylor > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe the podling has a valid reason behind that choice. So let us not > chuck that out of the window because of other podlings not paying attention > to what they did. > > Best regards, > > Pierre Smits > > *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/ > >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:42 PM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I agree. >> >> It’s also worth discussing whether the “tasked with the creation of a set >> of bylaws” section of the proposal is really needed. >> >> My understanding is that that section is not actually necessary, and has >> proliferated among projects largely due to copying/pasting of other >> graduation proposals. I believe it is only necessary if a project plans to >> deviate from the ASF standard ASF practices. >> >> Just something to consider. >> >> -Taylor >> >>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> I am a mentor of Kylin and I believe the project is ready to graduate. >>> They have created a vibrant, open community and are conducting >>> business in the Apache Way. >>> >>> One proviso: Let's complete the name search before starting the IPMC >>> vote. It would be foolish to let that particular cart get in front of >>> the horse. I don't think that prevents us from discussing graduation. >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Samant, Medha <msam...@ebay.com> wrote: >>>> +1 >>>> >>>>> On 10/9/15, 10:13 AM, "Adunuthula, Seshu" <sadunuth...@ebay.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> >>>>>> On 10/7/15, 8:32 AM, "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be happy to see kylin graduate. >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 11:28, "Luke Han" <luke...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Kylin community and project made significant advances during the >>>>>>> incubating (from Nov 2014) and >>>>>>> believes it is ready to graduate as a top-level project. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6 >>>>>>> committers and 2 mentors) and >>>>>>> increased diversity in the past year. Released 3 version in the past >> 6 >>>>>>> months. There were presentations about Kylin >>>>>>> at most of the big conferences of the world (including Strata+Hadoop >>>>>>> World >>>>>>> London, Hadoop Summit San Jose, >>>>>>> ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology >> Conference >>>>>>> China) and some meetups (Bay Area, >>>>>>> Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many >> talks >>>>>>> around the world. >>>>>>> The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per >> month >>>>>>> now. >>>>>>> The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from >>>>>>> contributors/committers have been merged into code base. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please >> find >>>>>>> below >>>>>>> references to the graduation preparation artifacts: >>>>>>> * discussion on dev list [1] >>>>>>> * vote thread [2] >>>>>>> * podling name search (still in progress) [3] >>>>>>> * incubation status [4] >>>>>>> * proposed resolution below >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote. >>>>>>> There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page >> and >>>>>>> others during the next couple of days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, >>>>>>> Luke Han (on behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate >>>>>>> [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote >>>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86 >>>>>>> [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apache Kylin top-level project resolution: >>>>>>> =============================== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the >>>>>>> public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project", >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source >>>>>>> software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine; >>>>>>> and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and >>>>>>> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at >>>>>>> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for >>>>>>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility >>>>>>> of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>> Apache Kylin Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Dayue Gao <gaodayue at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Jason Zhong <zhongjian at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Luke Han <lukehan at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Henry Saputra <hsaputra at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Hongbin Ma <mahongbin at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Hua Huang <hhuang at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Owen O'Malley <omalley at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Qianhao Zhou <qhzhou at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Shaofeng Shi <shaofengshi at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Song Yi <yisong at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Xu Jiang <jiangxu at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Yang Li <liyang at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Kylin, to serve >>>>>>> in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of >>>>>>> Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, >>>>>>> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until >>>>>>> a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>>>>>> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>> Kylin Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>> Incubator Kylin podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator >>>>>>> PMC are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
