> 
> They do?  This is the statement of the VP Legal, so whether it is right or
> wrong, here at the ASF we attempt to honor the 'spirit' of the policy of
> other licensors when we use their code, and we would hope others would
> honor the 'spirit' of our policies here.  It that is the underlying
> assumption, that the code is not licensed by the ASF until a formal release
> occurs, then we need to revisit the many implications of that philosophy.

I am no longer playing this game... 

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