On 3/17/15 12:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: >> On 3/11/15 4:20 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: >>> Great initiative! >>> >>> Just one question: I don't see anything related to the groovy name and >>> possible trademark in the proposal. Does Pivotal have any claims to >>> the name groovy, and if so are those claims transferred to the ASF? >> >> Good point. Just from the Apache *policy* side, the ASF must have >> trademark rights to a podling's name before the board will approve a >> graduation vote. With such a long history, we would need a clear >> statement of some sort from whoever was previously hosting Groovy >> software product releases, which would seem to be Pivotal. Or, the >> podling would have to choose a new name that we did have rights to. 8-) >> >> If the PPMC requests it, we can then register the project's name as a >> trademark in the US *after* graduation. >> >> If this podling joins the incubator, please coordinate some Groovy PPMC >> and Pivotal contacts with trademarks@. Presuming Pivotal is willing >> (and I can't imagine why they wouldn't be), trademarks@ can ensure the >> right stuff gets done. > > Turns out it is not up to Pivotal. In fact, the statement I've just got goes > like this: "Pivotal does not have, nor will it make, any claims to the GROOVY > trademark"
Can you ensure that whoever actually wrote that from the Pivotal side communicates it to trademarks@, or at least to vp-brand@? If we do have questions later, counsel will need to email someone directly about it. > > Basically, Pivotal was happy to sponsor the project (just like it sponsors > RabbitMQ or Redis) but wasn't involved in sorting out the situation around > the Groovy project name and its legal status. > > Shane, please let me know if this bit of information is sufficient for you. > It appears as though ASF will have to do the usual PODDLINGNAMESEARCH > and determine the status of Groovy trademark on its own. > > I plan to start a [VOTE] thread sometime on Wed, unless you tell me otherwise. No need to gate a podling acceptance vote on branding issues. The only hard requirement is before graduation. - Shane > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
