Do you need assistance from the other mentors on the project to keep it
going?  Anything the incubator can do to help you out?

John

On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 6:12:01 PM Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 23 February 2015 at 03:07, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 10:38:23 AM Marvin Humphrey <
> mar...@rectangular.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 3:44 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > I don't see any comments here: http://wiki.apache.org/
> > > incubator/February2015
> > >
> > > I'm the one who categorized Sirona under "Report incomplete" in the
> > > "Summary
> > > of podling reports" section:
> > >
> > >   * Report incomplete
> > >
> > >       Sirona
> > >
> > > I honestly thought Sirona's report was a work in progress when I did
> that
> > > because several sections had been left blank.
> > >
> > > > So I wonder what sort of administrative stuff is missing?...
> > >
> > > It's not "administrative stuff" that's missing.  The problem is that
> > until
> > > Matt filed his Shepherd review, there was literally nothing in the
> report
> > > describing the state of the Sirona community.
> > >
> > > The following sections were left empty:
> > >
> > > *   `Three most important issues to address in the move towards
> > >     graduation:`
> > > *   `How has the community developed since the last report?`
> > > *   `When were the last committers or PMC members elected?`
> > >
> > > (The full report is pasted below my sig for reference.)
> > >
> > > The Board consistently follows up after TLPs who neglect to answer that
> > > last
> > > question.  If the Incubator teaches that such reports are acceptable, I
> > > don't
> > > think it's doing a very good job because such reports are unlikely to
> be
> > > acceptable to the Board.
> > >
> >
> > That's actually why I raised my question.  I had assumed the board would
> > have flagged Sirona as not having a complete report and expected it again
> > next month, yet I saw nothing mentioned in the board report (probably
> > because there was a high volume of missing reports, this one skirted by?)
> > about Sirona's not being accepted.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > However, when I flagged Sirona in the draft report review thread,
> nobody
> > > responded.  In the absence of IPMC consensus that Sirona's report was
> > > unacceptable, I opted to defer to the Sirona Mentors who signed off and
> > did
> > > not pursue the matter further.
> > >
> > > And that's where I think we leave things regarding the subject of this
> > > thread,
> > > "Should Sirona be monthly?": Sirona should not be required to report
> next
> > > month, in deference to its Mentors.
> > >
> >
> > And that's where I'm struggling a bit with Sirona.  Olivier's the active
> > guy on the project, PPMC and Mentor.  OpenHub and GitHub agree
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/sirona/graphs/contributors
> > https://www.openhub.net/p/sirona/contributors
> >
> > You can even see in Olivier's email to the dev alias that he considered
> the
> > report to be incomplete (only started).
> >
> >
> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sirona-dev/201502.mbox/%
> 3CCAPoyBqSRbOv6Y3pkQMqkCjzz3wOhqrV0yHrEyX4aNaP_FsvfEw%40mail.gmail.com%3E
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>
> I missed to answer to my own email saying that's finished.
> Sorry I reckon I'm really bad on administrative papers things....
>
>
> Olivier
>
>
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Marvin Humphrey
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > Sirona
> > >
> > > Monitoring Solution.
> > >
> > > Sirona has been incubating since 2013-10-15.
> > >
> > > Three most important issues to address in the move towards graduation:
> > >
> > >   1.
> > >   2.
> > >   3.
> > >
> > > Any issues that the Incubator PMC (IPMC) or ASF Board wish/need to be
> > > aware of?
> > >
> > >   None
> > >
> > > How has the community developed since the last report?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > How has the project developed since the last report?
> > >
> > >   Some refactoring of the UI.  A contributor made some development to
> > have
> > >   some features still working with java 1.5
> > >
> > > Date of last release:
> > >
> > >   2014-06-26
> > >
> > > When were the last committers or PMC members elected?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by:
> > >
> > >   [x](sirona) Olivier Lamy
> > >   [ ](sirona) Henri Gomez
> > >   [x](sirona) Jean-Baptiste Onofre
> > >   [ ](sirona) Tammo van Lessen
> > >   [ ](sirona) Mark Struberg
> > >
> > > Shepherd/Mentor notes:
> > >
> > >   Matthew B. Franklin (mfranklin):
> > >
> > >     Lot's of code is being committed to the project, but mostly by a
> > > couple of
> > >     developers.  There also does not appear to be much discussion on
> the
> > > list
> > >     in last period, likely  due to the low number of developers.
> > >
> > >     I recommend the podling focus on increasing the size and
> > participation
> > > of
> > >     the community as one of the issues to address prior to graduation.
> > >
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